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Old Sun Jun 04, 2006, 12:28pm
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Had a quadruple header this Saturday, and all in all it was a pretty good day. Two plates and two bases. Had some coach's that seemed to have been working with a different set of rules than the rest of us though, does that surprise anyone?

One sitch, runner coming in from 2nd on a single, catcher does not have the ball and was in not in position to block the plate or make a play on the runner. R2 comes in standing up, catcher moves to try to get ball and they have a minor collision, nothing malicious or flagrant. Coach comes unglued, saying that runner should be out because he has to slide. We conference, I explain there is no "must slide" rule, the contact was incidental and we will play on. The coach was convinced that I was ignorant of a rule that, 'everyone knows that there is a must slide rule in baseball, even in HS, Blue you have to know that!!!".

Second sitch, BR beats a throw to first that was thrown VERY high. F3 reaches for throw, it glances off his glove and bounds away from him. BR makes a turn toward second, takes two steps toward second base and slips and falls. In the mean time the F3 has corralled the ball and the BR is scrambling back to first. F3 makes the tag and I call the BR out. Same coach as above complains that "he can overun first and turn in any direction he wants, he can't be tagged out!!!", I explain "that applies to walks only, and not in high school, a BR makes a wide turn at first on a single and he can't be put out?" He looked puzzled at me and said, " you just don't get it", and walked away!!

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Old Sun Jun 04, 2006, 01:06pm
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Situation #1: A better explanation may be, "Coach, there is no must slide rule in baseball, it is slide or avoid contact. In this case, your catcher was not where he should have been on the play, and he initiated the contact. Had the runner not scored, I would have called obstruction on your catcher." That may have shut him up.

Situation #2: "Yes coach, he can turn in any direction he wants, but if he makes any move toward second base, he is liable to be tagged out, by rule."
This also would have shut him up and he would have had no grounds for extra commentary.
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Old Sun Jun 04, 2006, 04:13pm
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R2 comes in standing up, catcher moves to try to get ball and they have a minor collision, nothing malicious or flagrant.
Quick fix- at time of collision signal safe, call it clean- "That's nothing", or "That's clean", whatever you prefer. That way, the coach knows you've seen it, and ruled on it.


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Old Sun Jun 04, 2006, 07:46pm
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Had a quadruple header this Saturday, and all in all it was a pretty good day. Two plates and two bases. Had some coach's that seemed to have been working with a different set of rules than the rest of us though, does that surprise anyone?
You didn't have a coach working with a different set of rules, you had a coach who did not know what the rules are and thinks he knows more than you do. There is a lot of that going around in summer league youth baseball.
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Old Sun Jun 04, 2006, 08:33pm
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You didn't have a coach working with a different set of rules, you had a coach who did not know what the rules are and thinks he knows more than you do. There is a lot of that going around in summer league youth baseball.
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i had a big long post here, but erased it all before sending. depending on where this topic goes, i might be back.
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Old Mon Jun 05, 2006, 10:55am
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