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Old Sun Jun 04, 2006, 07:32pm
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Story from my game today: Pitcher throws a boderline high curve ball right down the middle of the plate. Strike I call. Next pitch is another curve ball, at the same height of the previous pitch, except on the inside corner. Ball I call. Assistant coach from the dugout yells "Where the hell was that pitch at?!?!" I yelled back "Hey chief, that was up." Coach responds "That was the same height as the previous pitch." I screamed back "Yes you are correct, but the plate is longer right down the middle than on the inside corner. The pitch down the middle caught the top edge of the strike zone, but the pitch on the corner did not." Coach says back "Okay, sounds good to me."
If it's that close I call it a strike.
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Old Sun Jun 04, 2006, 09:28pm
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Instead of an oval, I think the strike zone is shaped like home plate with the point of home plate at the top of the strike zone. I agree with those who say that a pitch just below the numbers right down the middle gets called a strike while a pitch of the same height on either corner gets balled. However, I try to be consistent at the bottom of the zone as far as height goes. I work hard at keeping the height of the zone the same whether the pitch is down the middle or on the corner.

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Old Sun Jun 04, 2006, 09:37pm
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apparently today i had the worst strike zone one coach has ever seen in his life. i should have read this thread before my game today, because apparently i needed a whole lot of help...

[begin rant]when you teach a catcher to put nearly their entire body outside the strike zone, you would think the coach would realize that basically every ball the kid catches is obviously outside of the zone...but hey, its a coach. the kid would catch a ball and not move his glove, but i ball it because its 10 inches outside. the coach would be absolutely disgusted...and the catcher was somehow shocked as well.[end rant]
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Old Sun Jun 04, 2006, 09:57pm
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apparently today i had the worst strike zone one coach has ever seen in his life. i should have read this thread before my game today, because apparently i needed a whole lot of help...

[begin rant]when you teach a catcher to put nearly their entire body outside the strike zone, you would think the coach would realize that basically every ball the kid catches is obviously outside of the zone...but hey, its a coach. the kid would catch a ball and not move his glove, but i ball it because its 10 inches outside. the coach would be absolutely disgusted...and the catcher was somehow shocked as well.[end rant]
I must have had a good game today. Not one comment, from bench or fans, about any pitches.

And while we are on the subject of strike zone, how a catcher catches it is definitely a factor, as well as the age of the catcher, and the level of the game. I had one pitch about 2 inches above the knee, and right in the middle of the plate. It hit the catcher's mitt and went sideways about 15 feet. I did not say anything, I just turned and looked at the ball rolling away. The catcher tells his pitcher "that's me, that's me" and no one says a word. This was college players playing with wood bats in the summer, and at that level a catcher should be able to catch a strike.

I also called several pitches strikes that were over the middle that were at the top of the "bullit".

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Today I had a batter square to bunt, pulled the bat back way before the pitch arrived at the plate, and it was low, so I called "ball." The stupid coach, who was sitting in the closest part of the dugout to home plate asked, "He didn't offer at it, Blue?"

I said, "If he would have offered at it, I would have called it a strike, don't you think?"

The coach said nothing further.
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[QUOTE=DG]I must have had a good game today. Not one comment, from bench or fans, about any pitches.

And while we are on the subject of strike zone, how a catcher catches it is definitely a factor, as well as the age of the catcher, and the level of the game. I had one pitch about 2 inches above the knee, and right in the middle of the plate. It hit the catcher's mitt and went sideways about 15 feet. I did not say anything, I just turned and looked at the ball rolling away. The catcher tells his pitcher "that's me, that's me" and no one says a word. This was college players playing with wood bats in the summer, and at that level a catcher should be able to catch a strike.
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I had the bases in an adult summer league game last week. The catcher for one of the teams was having a hard time holding on to pitches. At one point, after having three consecutive pitches pop out of his glove the SS yells in, "It's like a ketchup bottle! You have to squeeze it!!!"
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Hey NiUmp50:

I now know all I need to know about your umpire ability, the level of baseball you work and your believability.

It makes it easy for me to give your posts the interest they deserve.

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Apparently in your world, whoever has the loudest and most intimidating coach gets the calls.
Quite frankly i could care less what you think of me or my abilities. Any one too scared to call a strike a strike has shown me all i need to see about their character and believability.
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Apparently in your world, whoever has the loudest and most intimidating coach gets the calls.
Quite frankly i could care less what you think of me or my abilities. Any one too scared to call a strike a strike has shown me all i need to see about their character and believability.
Your clear lack of understanding of how the game works at higher levels is all I need to know about your experience and ability.
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Apparently in your world, whoever has the loudest and most intimidating coach gets the calls.
Quite frankly i could care less what you think of me or my abilities. Any one too scared to call a strike a strike has shown me all i need to see about their character and believability.

This isn't slow pitch softball. There isn't one high quality umpire I know that will call a hard breaking curve a strike if it's caught just off of the dirt. Not one! I don't care where it crosses, I'm not calling that crap a strike.



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Old Tue Jun 13, 2006, 10:32am
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Consistancy is the key

The key to calling ball and strikes is consistancy.
I have developed what I call "the strike zone of least resistance". The pitch must be at or below about 2" above the belt. Nothing below the hollow beneath the knee. A little bit in is OK, I'll grab it for a strike. 2-3" out and I can get it.

Now it's story time- I was working a summer adult wood bat league game last week. In the 3rd or 4th, a pitch comes in for a high strike, and I call it a strike (I should've balled it). The batter looks at me and says, "That was a ball my last at bat." I said "It was a strike that time." He shakes his head digs in and we go. Next pitch was in the same spot... "Ball" He (the batter) looked at me and I said "See, it's a ball again."
In the parking lot after the game the batter approached me and said, "I guess everyone misses them once in a while?" I said, "I didn't miss it, I'm schitzophrenic." We had a good laugh
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The key to calling ball and strikes is consistancy.
I have developed what I call "the strike zone of least resistance". The pitch must be at or below about 2" above the belt. Nothing below the hollow beneath the knee. A little bit in is OK, I'll grab it for a strike. 2-3" out and I can get it.

Now it's story time- I was working a summer adult wood bat league game last week. In the 3rd or 4th, a pitch comes in for a high strike, and I call it a strike (I should've balled it). The batter looks at me and says, "That was a ball my last at bat." I said "It was a strike that time." He shakes his head digs in and we go. Next pitch was in the same spot... "Ball" He (the batter) looked at me and I said "See, it's a ball again."
In the parking lot after the game the batter approached me and said, "I guess everyone misses them once in a while?" I said, "I didn't miss it, I'm schitzophrenic." We had a good laugh
Hardly anyone complains on the high strike anymore. We've been calling it for a few years and just about anything below the letters is an easy one to grab. This started in the NCAA and MLB and has trickled down.

Why restrict yourself to 2" above the belt?
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Here's what I was taught.

See a Balk, Call a Balk.

See a Strike that looks like a Ball, call it a Ball. (because that's what everybody else saw)

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