Umpire Interference/ CA NCS Final, Bellarmine vs. Valley Christian-San Jose

[umpduck11]

You can yell "dead ball" until you are hoarse, but that doesn't
always mean they'll stop play. Coaches know that you can send
them back, but you cannot move them up, as in a potential ground-
rule double situation. Therefore, they keep the runners moving.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by umpduck11

You can yell "dead ball" until you are hoarse, but that doesn't
always mean they'll stop play. Coaches know that you can send
them back, but you cannot move them up, as in a potential ground-
rule double situation. Therefore, they keep the runners moving.

I have only been hit working the middle once (in C), and it was by Tony Clark. It was a bullet that hit me in the right foot so fast I couldn't even move. I immediately killed the ball, which is the right call by rule. An umpire needs to have the presence of mind as to what to do if he gets hit by the ball.

Clark also almost took my head off working in "A" in another game. I guess perhaps he liked aiming at the umpires.

[BigUmp56]

I have to ask this. Is it possible that the umpires were accustomed to applying "string theory" on interference and the corners were playing in with R1 and R3?

If that's true, I could see how they could recognize post-incident that there was umpires interference.



Tim.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I have to ask this. Is it possible that the umpires were accustomed to applying "string theory" on interference and the corners were playing in with R1 and R3?

If that's true, I could see how they could recognize post-incident that there was umpires interference.

I doubt it, since there were R1 and R2.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I doubt it, since there were R1 and R2.

So, I miss numbered the runners. That still doesn't address the possibility that they may have been initially prescribing to "string theory." It's entirely possible for F5 to be playing in and the BU, if in C position, was struck near that imaginary line.


Tim.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

So, I miss numbered the runners. That still doesn't address the possibility that they may have been initially prescribing to "string theory." It's entirely possible for F5 to be playing in and the BU, if in C position, was struck near that imaginary line.

It isn't that you misnumbered the runners, it's that you misplaced them. If they were working 3-man, with 1st and 2nd, U1 would be at short A, and U3 at short (normal) C, correct? With 1st and 3rd, U3 would be in deep C, and could very likely be behind that imaginary line, do you follow me here? With 1st and 2nd, no matter how far in F5 plays, he should still be behind U3 in a normal C position, which is where he should be, in order to cover a steal attempt of 3rd.

Either way though, I think the "string theory" angle is a bit of a stretch.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by umpduck11

You can yell "dead ball" until you are hoarse, but that doesn't
always mean they'll stop play. Coaches know that you can send
them back, but you cannot move them up, as in a potential ground-
rule double situation. Therefore, they keep the runners moving.

"Time!" works better.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GarthB

"Time!" works better.

And is correct.

I swear....I was working with a guy this year who, on a hit by pitch, shouted," DEAD BALL! TAKE YOUR BASE!"

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

I swear....I was working with a guy this year who, on a hit by pitch, shouted," DEAD BALL! TAKE YOUR BASE!"

And he was working the bases!!!

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by umpduck11

You can yell "dead ball" until you are hoarse, but that doesn't
always mean they'll stop play. Coaches know that you can send
them back, but you cannot move them up, as in a potential ground-
rule double situation. Therefore, they keep the runners moving.

The coaches should know the rules too! The fact that the coach came unglued means that he didn't.