whats the rulebook say

[SAump]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Your logic is flawed. You're trying to equate why a bat was thrown to what happened after the bat was thrown. There is a distinction between the two.

Just as you cannot say that you judged a thrown bat to be a flagrant unsportsmanlike action that warranted no penalty if it didn't cause serious injury, you cannot say that a bat judged as being thrown carelessly warrants a more severe penalty than what the rules allow if it did cause serious injury.

Tim.

Same situation, less than two outs, batter hits a grounder to third who fields it cleanly and comes up to throw home to prevent the run from scoring. The catcher is on the ground holding his left elbow after a carelessly thrown bat. The 3B throws the ball to 1B to retire the batter. Does the run score?

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by SAump

Same situation, less than two outs, batter hits a grounder to third who fields it cleanly and comes up to throw home to prevent the run from scoring. The catcher is on the ground holding his left elbow after a carelessly thrown bat. The 3B throws the ball to 1B to retire the batter. Does the run score?

Yes, why wouldn't it? This I have to hear.


Tim.

[BigUmp56]

Using your logic this should have been a three base award. After all it must have really hurt more than being knicked in the thigh.







Tim.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Yes, why wouldn't it? This I have to hear.


Tim.

You would allow the offense to take advantage of a mistake caused by the offense. Your logic is flawed if you allow the offense to exchange a run for an out in this manner. Now don't start an argument with me about the lack of intent.

I feel the batter interfered with the catcher's ability to field his position. I would call the batter OUT for interference by rule and return the runner to 3B, the last base legally obtained at TOI. If the bases were loaded, I would rule a DP as a result of this interference if I felt one was possible.

[BigUmp56]

Well, yes I would allow the run to score. Then again I'm one of those crazy umpires who feels bound to enforce the rules as they're written.



Tim.