Hockey Style masks or Traditional??

[SAump]

HSM Facts:
1) More expensive, 2) More heat, 3) Less professional, 4) Less padding, 5) Less comfort, 7) Less buying INFO, 8) Harder to size, 9) Harder to take on/off, 10) Harder to handle or store in gym bag, 11) Safety record (NIL), 12) Must cut hair or wear silly stocking cap and 13) Must have small head to fit right.

Safety:
1) Catcher NO longer tosses it or trips over it because they no longer take it off durring the course of a PLAY.
2) More deflection,the impact is significantly reduced. However, the UMPIRE standing behind the catcher is now more likely to take the DING on the unprotected ARM. Ouch.

Challenge:
1) Name one umpire or catcher whose carreer ended from an injury caused by the impact of a foul ball to the mask. Then prove that this injury would have been prevented as a result of wearing a HSM over the traditional mask.
2) Name and discuss any fact or safety issue that may prove added value of wearing a HSM.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SAump

HSM Facts:
1) More expensive, 2) More heat, 3) Less professional, 4) Less padding, 5) Less comfort, 7) Less buying INFO, 8) Harder to size, 9) Harder to take on/off, 10) Harder to handle or store in gym bag, 11) Safety record (NIL), 12) Must cut hair or wear silly stocking cap and 13) Must have small head to fit right.

My helmet was $85. I own a mask that cost more.

How is it "less professional?" Chuck Meriwether wore one at the A's game I attended last night. BTW, he didn't even bother taking it off when rotating up to third.

Anyone that says the helmet is cooler is on drugs. The heat is the one big drawback to the helmet.

[LMan]

I decided that, heat be damned, safety is paramount...so I just ordered one of these:

[NFump]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Good one!

[SAump]

Less Professional

http://www.home-team-sports.com/stor..._26940393.html

I think this would protect the front, top, side and back of my head.
I also think that it would provides a better field of view than any baseball or hockey helmet.
I also think that if you redesign the face mask for baseball, it would provide significantly better protection for my lower jaw, neck, and spine.

Would you allow umpires to wear a similar redesigned baseball helmet if it provided better protection overall?

[BigUmp56]

Best helmet-mask combo on the market!





Tim.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by SAump

Less Professional

http://www.home-team-sports.com/stor..._26940393.html

I think this would protect the front, top, side and back of my head.
I also think that it would provides a better field of view than any baseball or hockey helmet.
I also think that if you redesign the face mask for baseball, it would provide significantly better protection for my lower jaw, neck, and spine.

Would you allow umpires to wear a similar redesigned baseball helmet if it provided better protection overall?

Only if they were A & M helmets.

[SanDiegoSteve]

I have been reading some threads that mention that umpires don't need to take off the helmets when running or making their calls. I don't agree with this mechanic.

I may not get my helmet off on a hot-shot down the line, but in all other situations, I remove my helmet with my left hand, just like a mask, and make all my calls with the helmet in my left hand.

I think running around with the helmet on does look unprofessional, just as keeping a mask on would. It is the reason that someone mentioned that it looked like a bobble head doll, because of all the bobbing up and down running with it on would cause.

There is no reason not to remove the helmet, just as you would a conventional mask.

JM2cents

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by SAump

HSM Facts:
1) More expensive, 2) More heat, 3) Less professional, 4) Less padding, 5) Less comfort, 7) Less buying INFO, 8) Harder to size, 9) Harder to take on/off, 10) Harder to handle or store in gym bag, 11) Safety record (NIL), 12) Must cut hair or wear silly stocking cap and 13) Must have small head to fit right.

Safety:
1) Catcher NO longer tosses it or trips over it because they no longer take it off durring the course of a PLAY.
2) More deflection,the impact is significantly reduced. However, the UMPIRE standing behind the catcher is now more likely to take the DING on the unprotected ARM. Ouch.

Challenge:
1) Name one umpire or catcher whose carreer ended from an injury caused by the impact of a foul ball to the mask. Then prove that this injury would have been prevented as a result of wearing a HSM over the traditional mask.
2) Name and discuss any fact or safety issue that may prove added value of wearing a HSM.

1) not necessarily, 2) true, 3) false, 4) padding not needed, 5) way more comfort, 6) you skipped 6, 7) what?????, 8) quite easy to size - 2 sizes fit all,
9) if you are an imbicile, perhaps harder, 10) yes, if you store your gear in a "gym bag," but most of us use equipment bags, 11) N/A 12) why on earth, sweaty hair? get over yourself!!! 13) total bullsh*t.

Safety:
1) Really? All the catchers I know flip the helmet off to make plays (except steals). Have not had one catcher try to catch a pop-up with his helmet on.
2) Totally a logical fallacy. Try again.

Challenge:
1) Stupid challenge, as it is totally irrelevant what has or has not occurred in the past.
2) When the ball hits you in the back of the head, it doesn't hurt. I got a rebound in the back of the noggin the other night. Also would be nice to have if Delmon Young is nearby with a bat in his hands.