The AMLU's Birmingham Folly

[MrB]

I went back and took a look at my finances for my 1st year in the game and I made almost $14,500 in Salary that included Spring, Extended, Short A, and Instructs. That does not include per diem which was roughly $4000. I was not a driver my first year but I was my second, and those mileage checks were very nice, and yes the cost of gas has gone up, but if they were to match the federal mileage rate, then that would be a major chunk of change.

Lets' look at a AAA guy making $2800/month during Spring, AAA, instructs he would make about 22,000, and when the guys that get back from the Caribbean, they are carrying anywhere from $8000-$12,000, cash with them.

The point, neither side is being honest about the numbers, so let's not play the numbers game.

Starting Teacher makes about $28,000 for 9 months of work and no meal money and no mileage to drive to work. Should they be paid more? Probably. What did they spend on their professional training? $50,000, minimum!

Starting Umpire makes about $14,500 for 7 months of work and about $4000 for meals and about $0.40 a mile do drive to work. Should they be paid more? Probably. What did they spend on their professional training? $5,000 maximum!

[lawump]

Originally Posted by MrB

Lets' look at a AAA guy making $2800/month during Spring, AAA, instructs he would make about 22,000, and when the guys that get back from the Caribbean, they are carrying anywhere from $8000-$12,000, cash with them.

I did not calculate Winter Ball (Carribean) at all. I have no idea what they make for that. The numbers I suggested were only for 7 months of work (175 days of work). They did not include AFL (instructs) either. I have no idea what they make for that...I could have asked, but haven't. I've given a mea culpa on the Spring Training...obviously I counted SPring Training as one of the 7 months, but did not count it in the salary figure of $15,000. As I said above they would thus be working 175 days (games) for a more than $15000. The exact amount varying depending on which club you were assigned to.

I have no knowledge of what they get paid for AFL or Carribean work...but I did not include that in the 175 work days a year, either. And the majority of umpires (AAA and others) are not lucky enough to work those in any given year.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by MrB

Starting Teacher makes about $28,000 for 9 months of work and no meal money and no mileage to drive to work. Should they be paid more? Probably. What did they spend on their professional training? $50,000, minimum!

Where is this teacher starting their job at? I can tell you the Chicago Public Schools start new teachers out about $40,000 and will give them breaks in loans to find housing in the city limits. I know teachers that have several years of service can make $60,000-$80,000 depending on what they teach and what they do for the school. None of this includes benefits and insurance packages if a teacher is faced with health care issues. Now this is a major metropolitan area I am talking about and they are a great need for teachers across the board. This might not apply to other parts of the country. I know if you gave someone $28,000 in the community I grew up in, it might not be a lot of money, but the money would go a lot longer because the cost of living is not as great.

This is why I feel we should not compare different professions in this debate. It really is not a fair comparison.

Peace

[MrB]

I got my info off of the US Dept of Ed website, the min for the US is 28k, I went back and looked and the minimum starting in Illinois is 32k with the average salary of 49k for all teachers.

As for the programs and perks, there are programs and perks in every job. One of the perks of being a MiLB umpire, is when you get out, you can work NCAA ball without playing politics and make more in 12 weekends then you made in a year of MiLB ball.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Where is this teacher starting their job at? I can tell you the Chicago Public Schools start new teachers out about $40,000 and will give them breaks in loans to find housing in the city limits. I know teachers that have several years of service can make $60,000-$80,000 depending on what they teach and what they do for the school..

Peace

In Washington state teachers' starting salary is 30,380. With a masters degree and 15 years experience, they make 50,530. They cannot reach $80,000 no matter how long the teach or how many degrees they obtain.