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Old Wed Apr 19, 2006, 12:52pm
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Another kicked call by MLB umpire

Bruce Froemming just made a horrible call in the Yankees vs. Blue Jays game on ESPN.

Ground ball over 2nd base fielded by F6, who flipped to F4 who never caught the ball. Froemming called it way too quickly, like he usually does, and called the Yankee runner out as the ball is rolling away. Very poor timing. Torre came out, but of course the play stood.

Froemming should have waited a second longer (at least) and he would have seen the ball on the ground. I think he tried to sell it that it was a voluntary release, but F4 dropped the ball far too quickly to even possibly be considered as having control. But he never even caught it to begin with.

Before anyone asks what good does pointing out these bad calls do, I do it so we as amateur umpires remember not to call these plays too quickly, and to illustrate that even the pros make terrible calls.
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Old Wed Apr 19, 2006, 01:12pm
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Same game, one of my former partners (albeit only a couple games) Brian Runge scored a run on a time play during a rundown between 2nd and 3rd. The tag was applied for out #3 on the runner in the rundown a good 2 to 3 steps before the runner from 3rd reached home plate. This one went in the Yankees favor, and the Jays skipper argued to no avail.

Wow, two in the same game. And it's only the 5th inning!
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Old Wed Apr 19, 2006, 10:36pm
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Same game, one of my former partners (albeit only a couple games) Brian Runge scored a run on a time play during a rundown between 2nd and 3rd. The tag was applied for out #3 on the runner in the rundown a good 2 to 3 steps before the runner from 3rd reached home plate. This one went in the Yankees favor, and the Jays skipper argued to no avail.

Wow, two in the same game. And it's only the 5th inning!
I was wondering about that play. The replay I saw didn't show a split screen, so I didn't see it. 2 or 3 steps? Wow.
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Old Wed Apr 19, 2006, 10:40pm
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I was wondering about that play. The replay I saw didn't show a split screen, so I didn't see it. 2 or 3 steps? Wow.
Yes, during the first at bat in the next inning, they did a split screen on it, and sorry to say, it wasn't even close. At least 2 steps being generous.
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Old Thu Apr 20, 2006, 12:30am
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I watched the Rogers Sportsnet, Canadian Telecast of the game. Both umpires kicked both of their respective calls. Timing was the issue at second, and I don't know what the issue at the dish with Runge was, he just missed it. However very little argument from John Gibbons or any of the Jays for that matter.

Interesting side note, the color commentator, Pat Tabler, American, not that it matters, made a comment about how there is such a thing as a home park call, and that was his justification for the call Froemming made at second. He also went on to suggest that for the call on the time play at the plate, Runge might have taken into consideration the missed call against the Yankees at second by Froemming. I love commentators. LMAO.
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Old Thu Apr 20, 2006, 12:49am
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To take some positive out of this...

any time you've had a bad game, you can look at games like these and say to yourself "see, the pros miss 'em too sometimes."
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