In the dirt or not?

[BktBallRef]

Chisox-Angels

Was the 2 out, 3rd strike in the dirt or not?

On the closeup replay, it appeared to me that the ball hit the dirt and bounced up into the mitt.

Thoughts?

[mbyron]

I thought the replay was inconclusive about whether the ball hit the ground.

But Eddings CLEARLY signaled the strike AND the out. And THEN the catcher rolled the ball in. What was that all about?

[Peruvian]

When they blew it up, I thought the catcher trapped the ball. Plate ump's mechanics were awful on that play. They teach us that after the strikeout, you signal the out, then you give 2 emphatic safe signs, signifying the ball hit the dirt. If he'd have done that, none of that would've happened.

[jpc2119]

It looked to me that it clearly did NOT hit the ground.

However, Eddings made the out signal so how is the batter not out? To the best of my knowledge, you can't call a batter out and then let him run anyway. Eddings made the delayed dead ball signal, then called him out. I'm very confused by this.

Secondly, why was Rapuano not asked earlier? He is the umpire with the best view so why did it take a second trip from Soscia to get the appeal.

Thoughts?

[scottyman51]

Edding did put up the out sign,so why he changed the call is beyond me. He believed the batter,instead of himself. You have to play the game assuming the umpires will make 2 mistakes,and if the agels had played better baseball it wouldnt have mattered.

The fact he changed the call after putting the out sign up twice is a little wierd,but it did look like rapuano did point to the dirt,but they should have gotten all the umpires together. who knows,and who really cares. Umpires make mistakes,part of the game. It sucks but it happens.

[Rich]

Originally posted by yankeesfan
no way that hit the dirt. are you guys watching a different game? horrible call. the umpire called him out even though he said he didn't, it clearly showed an out call. or maybe the umpire was just trying to catch a fly.

How are the Yankees doing this playoff season?

[gordon30307]

Originally posted by jpc2119
It looked to me that it clearly did NOT hit the ground.

However, Eddings made the out signal so how is the batter not out? To the best of my knowledge, you can't call a batter out and then let him run anyway. Eddings made the delayed dead ball signal, then called him out. I'm very confused by this.

Secondly, why was Rapuano not asked earlier? He is the umpire with the best view so why did it take a second trip from Soscia to get the appeal.

Thoughts?

That was disgusting for the Angels to lose a game like that. While the plate umpire does not have the benefit of replay nine times out of ten that's an out. However, Josh Paul should have tagged the batter anyways. That crew is going to lose their lunch when they see the replay.

[yankeesfan]

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser

How are the Yankees doing this playoff season?

how long did it take you to think of this one? great job.

[bluehair]

I was flipping between games and I'm not sure which HP ump was doing this, but one of them uses the hammer in front of his body for his strike mechanic. It looks like most out mechanics, but he uses this for the strike mechanic. That may have been what he was signaling, strike three, not an out.

Eddings will probably have some 'splanin to do. He's got to be feeling nausous, right now. It couldn't have come at a worse time.

[SoCalUmp]

Originally posted by yankeesfan
did you guys hear the press conference with the umpires? they are trying to weassel their way out of it. they said the saw the ball "change direction" on the replays. they are so full of it. why dont they just admit they blew it?

THis has to be the dumbest fu**ing post I have ever read. Pull your head out of your @ss and get a clue. Do you really thnk they are going to go out there and say "Hey we f'd up!"???

[afrothunda]

Well if you watch his strike mechanic all night it was the same all the way to the end.

He signaled that the ball was live first with his right arm extended and then signaled that is was a strike three. I dont think he signaled the third out. He walks on the field and gives the same live ball mechanic.

I think the problem with is mechanic is that he uses the hammer which can be confused with an out signal.

[Rich]

There is one slow motion replay where it DOES look as if the ball changes direction, from the ground up into the glove.

[yankeesfan]

Originally posted by SoCalUmp

THis has to be the dumbest fu**ing post I have ever read. Pull your head out of your @ss and get a clue. Do you really thnk they are going to go out there and say "Hey we f'd up!"???

are you a big d***k? why wouldn't they istead of dancing around. i'm sure your a great umpire an dont make mistakes, and by the way i have a clue, jerk.

[Rich]

Originally posted by yankeesfan

how long did it take you to think of this one? great job.

Makes my day that $200 million isn't enough to buy a World Series.

The Yankees lose. THHHHHHHEEEEE Yankees lose.

[SanDiegoSteve]

On any ball that close to the dirt, where there may be some doubt whether or not Josh Paul caught it, the tag should have been applied, just to be sure. Eddings signaled strike with the hammer, which he uses for all swinging strikes. Eddings, Crawford, and the Supervisor, all are claiming that the replays they have viewed indicate a change of direction, meaning the ball hit the dirt first. This one will be talked about for quite awhile, I fear.