A Doozy of a Rule Question

[Carl Childress]

Originally posted by briancurtin
im pretty sure you shouldnt count the run

6.07(b)(2) says "nullify any advance or score made because of a ball batted by the improper batter or because of the improper batter's advance to first base on a hit, an error, a base on balls, a hit batter, or otherwise."

he advanced to first base on a dropped 3rd strike, falling under the "otherwise" category. i believe the run should not be counted.

(edited for grammar)

1. I'm pretty sure you should count the run. The point of the rule: Runners may not advance as a result of any action of the batter. This guy advanced on his own.

2. On the hand, I'm pretty sure you shouldn't count the run for the reason you stated: The batter-runner was the third outg before he touched first safely.

Here's how to figure it out: Bases loaded, two outs, B1 doubles, tries for third, and gets tagged out. Three runs score.

But no!

The defense appeals that B1 missed first, and the umpire agrees. It's an advantageous fourth out, and no runs score.

In your improper-batter scenario, the third out was made before the batter-runner reached first safely.

Of the two rulings, I'm most fond of number 2.