FED multiple runners missing a base or leaving too soon

[PeteBooth]

Finally got shoveled out - 15 inches of snow and more on the way. You see we have a new set of rules in the east called SNOW RULES

I have a suggestion for the Staff Writers. The FED season is underway and will be HEATING-UP shortly. By underway, I mean most of us are attending meetings etc. Therefore, IMO it would be worthwhile at least until the end of the HS season to have 2 sections here at Eumpire - OBR and FED/NCAA.

Basically I am lazy and find myself going back and forth as to whether to post my question on eTeamz (They have a FED Board) or this one. I would like one all encompassing Board to begin with, but that's neither here nor there.

Ok Finally to the point of my thread. Sitch 1 out r2/r3 B1 hits gapper to F9 who makes great catch. Both r2/r3 leave too soon - r3 scores r2 ends up at third - ball in infield runners not going anywhere - End of Playing Action.


What does the umpire do? I believe (do not have my books with me) Rule 9-1-1 states that the coach has the option of which out to take.

we have multiple runners guilty of leaving too soon. Therefore, whom do we call out? Do we call out the runner closest to home? or simply say we have runners who left soo soon - Coach which out do you want?

Thanks

Pete Booth

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by PeteBooth
Finally got shoveled out - 15 inches of snow and more on the way. You see we have a new set of rules in the east called SNOW RULES

I have a suggestion for the Staff Writers. The FED season is underway and will be HEATING-UP shortly. By underway, I mean most of us are attending meetings etc. Therefore, IMO it would be worthwhile at least until the end of the HS season to have 2 sections here at Eumpire - OBR and FED/NCAA.

Basically I am lazy and find myself going back and forth as to whether to post my question on eTeamz (They have a FED Board) or this one. I would like one all encompassing Board to begin with, but that's neither here nor there.

Whether to have multiple boards is not up to the Staff Writers -- it's up to the board administrators (i.e., Brad and Jimmie).

I'd suggest posting here, unless your post deals with LL. I say this because:

1) There are more people here.
2) I keep having trouble with eTeamz -- either I can't reply, or I need to logout / login which restes all my "read" indicators and preferences and it takes too long to load.




[/quote]Ok Finally to the point of my thread. Sitch 1 out r2/r3 B1 hits gapper to F9 who makes great catch. Both r2/r3 leave too soon - r3 scores r2 ends up at third - ball in infield runners not going anywhere - End of Playing Action.


What does the umpire do? I believe (do not have my books with me) Rule 9-1-1 states that the coach has the option of which out to take.

we have multiple runners guilty of leaving too soon. Therefore, whom do we call out? Do we call out the runner closest to home? or simply say we have runners who left soo soon - Coach which out do you want?

Thanks

Pete Booth [/QUOTE]

Technically, the defense gets to choose the out. 9-1-1e and 9.1.1A

In practice, just enforce the out that gives the defense the advantage -- in this instance R3.



[Edited by bob jenkins on Mar 7th, 2001 at 10:52 AM]

[Dakota]

2) I keep having trouble with eTeamz -- either I can't reply, or I need to logout / login which restes all my "read" indicators and preferences and it takes too long to load

I frequent both boards. The baseball discussion here is very good, but you have to wade through a lot of folderol to get to the good stuff. For some reason, both baseball boards seem to attract a lot of attack-type posters. While it is controlled well here, it is still annoying.

I have noticed some users complain about not being able to reply on eteamz, but I have never had that problem. Also, logging out and logging in does not reset my "read" indicators or preferences. On both of these, how is your browser set up? Perhaps you are not allowing eteamz to leave behind on your PC the information it needs (for example, cookies).

On taking too long to load, the RightSports boards are nothing to brag about on load time, either.

On "read" indicators, RightSports doesn't have those at all. You have "new since last visit" indicators, and they seem to reset on all of your boards whenever you visit one board.

The constant carping against the Staff Writers here, even to the point of developing a club whose main raison d'être is to oppose Carl is sometimes amusing, but mostly tiring.

[Edited by Dakota on Mar 7th, 2001 at 11:43 AM]

[Roger Greene]

O.K. guys,

I've got to ask a qukestion. Whats 9-1-1 got to do with this sitch.

The play as I understand it is R1 and R2. One out. Batted ball is caught in flight. R1 and R2 left too early(did not retouch) and ended up at 3rd and scored.

Fed rules. End of playing action R1 and R2 are both out for failing to retouch. 3 outs, inning over. The only thing I see the coach needing to pick is his nose.

If it were OBR and defense appealed both runners propery, they would both be out. We wouldn't make them pick one or the other would we?

Am I missing something here ?

Roger Greene,
Member UT

[PeteBooth]

Originally posted by Roger Greene

I've got to ask a qukestion. Whats 9-1-1 got to do with this sitch.

The play as I understand it is R1 and R2. One out. Batted ball is caught in flight. R1 and R2 left too early(did not retouch) and ended up at 3rd and scored.

Fed rules. End of playing action R1 and R2 are both out for failing to retouch. 3 outs, inning over. The only thing I see the coach needing to pick is his nose.

Roger with all due respect, please re-read thread again, there was r2/r3 B1 hits a gapper in which the fielder makes a good catch. r2/r3 leave early. R3 scores R2 is now on third 2 outs (as a result of the catch).

Now end of playing action - we have 2 runners who left early, per the Technical ruling 9-1-1(e), the defensive team selects which out they want.

Therefore, my question was do we instruct the team or simply declare out r3 (most advantageous out).

Bob's response to me makes sense.

Pete Booth

[Roger Greene]

Pete,
I've done that before on test questions. I forget to count the out on the catch. My bad. (Thats what I get for posting immediately after a 20 hour shift.)

Roger Greene,
Member UT