Batting out of order, DH rule, and pitch count

[pzebra]

At least in Illinois umpires have no jurisdiction over pitch count. If an opposing coach feels there is a violation, there is a way to file a report on the state association website.

[pzebra]

You did not say whether there were 9 or 10 players in the lineup. NFHS rules allow for two different types of DH. One is a "traditional" DH similar to MLB, except that the DH can bat for any defensive player (not just the pitcher).

The other is called a "Player/DH" where a player plays defense but also bats for some other defensive player. In this case there would only be 9 players in the lineup.

The PlayerDH is locked into the batting order. And can also play defense. In your example it sounds like the P/DH was batting for the right fielder. This article from South Dakota does a pretty good job explaining the NFHS DH rules. https://sdumpires.org/uploads/NFHS%20DH%20Rule.pdf

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by pzebra

You did not say whether there were 9 or 10 players in the lineup. NFHS rules allow for two different types of DH. One is a "traditional" DH similar to MLB, except that the DH can bat for any defensive player (not just the pitcher).

The other is called a "Player/DH" where a player plays defense but also bats for some other defensive player. In this case there would only be 9 players in the lineup.

The PlayerDH is locked into the batting order. And can also play defense. In your example it sounds like the P/DH was batting for the right fielder. This article from South Dakota does a pretty good job explaining the NFHS DH rules. https://sdumpires.org/uploads/NFHS%20DH%20Rule.pdf

A P/DH cannot bat for the right fielder. IT allows that player to be removed as P but stay in the game as the DH for the substitute P.

Edit: In most codes a P/DH is Pitcher/DH, and that's how I read it. So my statement above is not quite correct. F9 can be a P(layer) /DH in FED. The post in red above is still incorrect. The P/DH does not bat "for some other defensive player." He bats AND plays defense, but can remain ad DH when he is replaced on defense.

[pzebra]

>>A P/DH cannot bat for right fielder<<

Assuming NFHS I think he can. Rule 8-1-4

A hitter may be (not mandatory) designated for any one starting player (not just pitchers) and all subsequent substitutes for that player in the game.


and 8-1-4b:
The starting designated hitter may be any one of the starting defensive players. When used in this manner, the starting defensive player has two positions: the defensive player and the designated hitter. The role of the defensive player may be substituted for by any legal substitute.


So what am I missing?