Official Scorebook Record

[BSBAL18]

Interesting situation....

Runner on 2nd, batter hits a lazy fly ball behind the pitchers mound. F6 dives for the ball and i call a trap (Call safe, point to ground a few times, repeat safe call). BR thinks he is out (since no one cares to check the umpire's sign) and peels off before getting to first base and goes directly to the dugout. R2 is now on third, and since he saw BR go back into dugout, takes off back to 2nd. haha

So end of play, R2 remains at 2nd, and i told the scorebook scorer that since the runner did not run to first base, it is *not* a single and then out-by-abandonment. But then i didnt know what to tell him how to score it...

A) if the runner had got to first.. i assume single and then ?what? for the out?
B) Since runner never touched first, i assume NO single,,, but then ?what? for the out record?

Would that just be counted as a 3-unassisted? I searched Google and didnt find too much on it.

[bob jenkins]

The scoring rules do not seem to cover "abandonment." Then again, only a runner who has reached first can abandon.

Other scoring rules credit F2 with the putout when a runner refuses to advance to first, and credit the nearest fielder when a runner is out for passing, etc.

So, I'd go ahead and give F2 the putout in your situation.

[LRZ]

Unless there were implications for a run counting or a similar issue, why would you, as the umpire, care how it is scored?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by LRZ

Unless there were implications for a run counting or a similar issue, why would you, as the umpire, care how it is scored?

Because some of us have a natural curiosity. Because sometimes we get asked by "mom the scorekeeper" and it's nice to be able to give an answer.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Because some of us have a natural curiosity. Because sometimes we get asked by "mom the scorekeeper" and it's nice to be able to give an answer.

As well as for trivia questons:

1) What is the maximum number of hits can a baseball team get in an inning and not score any runs?

2) What is the maximum number of hits can a fast pitch softball team get in an inning and not score any runs?

MTD, Sr.

[JJ]

....waiting.....tick....tick....tick.....

JJ

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by BSBAL18

Interesting situation....

Runner on 2nd, batter hits a lazy fly ball behind the pitchers mound. F6 dives for the ball and i call a trap (Call safe, point to ground a few times, repeat safe call). BR thinks he is out (since no one cares to check the umpire's sign) and peels off before getting to first base and goes directly to the dugout. R2 is now on third, and since he saw BR go back into dugout, takes off back to 2nd. haha

So end of play, R2 remains at 2nd, and i told the scorebook scorer that since the runner did not run to first base, it is *not* a single and then out-by-abandonment. But then i didnt know what to tell him how to score it...

A) if the runner had got to first.. i assume single and then ?what? for the out?
B) Since runner never touched first, i assume NO single,,, but then ?what? for the out record?

Would that just be counted as a 3-unassisted? I searched Google and didnt find too much on it.

Wouldn't that be a call "no catch" signal safe? If there was no verbal what the players did would be understandable at lower levels.