Question on Timeouts

[grizwald]

There is a discussion on an internet site that I frequent regarding the much discussed issue of players on their way out of bounds calling a timeout. I've read discussions here on this issue and my question really wasn't about this issue directly just a couple of things some people have posted in response on that site. I wanted to clarrify a couple of things that I think are wrong in their arguments. So I came here to you fine people, since you've been on the money regarding other rules questions I've had in the past.

First - A guy is is claiming that you have to both signal a timeout with your hands and call timeout before it will be granted.

I think I've seen discussions here saying that you guys would prefer that they do it this way and may even suggest to players and coaches that they do it this way to avoid confussion. But do the rules require it? Looking at the NCAA rules they tell the timer to stop the game clock when either an oral or visual request for timeout is granted. So that would make me think this guy is wrong.

Next - A guy is claiming that for example. The ball deflects off b1 during a pass or dribble. B1 is falling out of bounds why does he have possession enough to call a timeout but not possession enough for the shot clock to reset if he saves the ball to team A or falls OOB? I was just curious to hear the answer from you guys. I'm sure his logic is flawed, but I wondered where.

As always, thanks for the enjoyable reads. I read here alot even though I rarely post.