Coach submits lineup backwards

[Back In The Saddle]

Soph match this week. I'm the U and while checking the lineups (what is the proper terminology for making sure the players on the floor match the lineup?) before the first game, the girls are way out of rotation. I grab the written lineup, because suddenly I don't trust that I copied it correctly onto my card. I copied it correctly. The girls are just not where they should be.

It turns out the coach copied her lineup backwards. She quietly inquired if she could change it. I told her that we have to go with what she submitted.

Needless to say, the girls had some trouble adjusting to being backwards. Since it was only a soph game, and since it was the coaches screwup, I did work a little harder to fix obvious overlaps before the serve during the first few rotations.

Would you have handled this any differently?

[Andy]

Wouldn't the coach have the option of changing the lineup and accepting the LOR penalty to begin the game?

[FMadera]

Originally Posted by Andy

Wouldn't the coach have the option of changing the lineup and accepting the LOR penalty to begin the game?

7.1.2.A seems to say that if the lineup is legal (not necessarily "correct," mind you), then the coach cannot choose to take a penalty and change the lineup.

[Scrapper1]

Could the coach use subs to get everybody into the proper order before the game even starts? In sub-varsity matches, my state uses unlimited substitutions.

[TimTaylor]

Felix is correct - if the lineup is legal, the coach has to go with what they submit, that's the penalty. There is no option to take a penalty to change it.

Scrapper - since a player can only substitute into or out of one position in the serving order in a game, I don't see how your solution would accomplish anything.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

Scrapper - since a player can only substitute into or out of one position in the serving order in a game, I don't see how your solution would accomplish anything.

You're right. Duh! Sorry.

[FMadera]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Could the coach use subs to get everybody into the proper order before the game even starts? In sub-varsity matches, my state uses unlimited substitutions.

NFHS does not allow substitutions prior to the ball being put into play for a game.

[MCBear]

Felix, you and I know that, but Scrapper's state uses NCAA rules. Regardless of the rules set, there is no way to correct the coach's goof. Since it is a legal line-up, they just have to play the game in the weird positions that the coach put them in.