The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Volleyball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Thu Sep 03, 2026, 12:45am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 116
NCAA On-Court Logos

NCAA Question: The court graphic in the picture shows commercial/nonprofit logos placed on the court between the attack line and end line on each side of the court. This logo placement is legal since the logos do not interfere with any court markings.

__ Correct
__ Incorrect



[B]Rule 1.2.2.4 Commercial or Nonprofit Logos—A maximum of two commercial or nonprofit logos shall be permitted on the playing court and must conform to the following standards:
a. The logo(s) shall fit into a box that is not larger than 3 meters by 3 meters (10 feet by 10 feet), with no more than one logo on each half of the playing court;
b. This box shall be located between the attack line and end line and must not interfere with any required court markings or boundary lines;

***************************************

Based on the scale court diagram above, the Taco Bell logo appears to be a 20' x 5' logo. I answered that the Taco Bell logo is not legal, because is obviously over 10' wide. This was deemed incorrect. Huh?

The only way that 20' logo fits in a 10' x 10' box is if it's still folded before being placed on the floor!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Thu Sep 03, 2026, 02:08am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 117
Send it to PAVO. The picture is directly from this year’s clinic powerpoint. Of course, since it is not CRS, do expect to be ignored. While there - maybe tell them that the clinics themselves, in their current form, are outdated and a waste of time and money…

Last edited by IK13; Thu Sep 03, 2026 at 03:12am.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Thu Sep 03, 2026, 06:41am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,340
I also missed this one. :shrug: Someone justified it to me by stating that the question asks about placement, and not size. To the extent that's correct, it makes for a poor question, imho.

I do think the clinics should be available as a recording for those who cannot attend in person.

Last edited by bob jenkins; Thu Sep 03, 2026 at 01:34pm.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Thu Sep 03, 2026, 12:40pm
Lighten up, Francis.
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,759
Quote:
Originally Posted by IK13 View Post
While there - maybe tell them that the clinics themselves, in their current form, are outdated and a waste of time and money…
While I agree with your assessment, do not expect it to change any time soon. Our clinician last year essentially told us to save our breath.

Having said that, on this year's questionnaire after the clinic, I did say that it was 30-45 minutes too long and there was no need to do TWO book reports.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Thu Sep 03, 2026, 01:10pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 117
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrapper1 View Post
While I agree with your assessment, do not expect it to change any time soon. Our clinician last year essentially told us to save our breath...
I don't doubt it. They are getting paid (by you and me). It's job security.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Thu Sep 03, 2026, 01:18pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 116
Exclamation

Quote:
Originally Posted by IK13 View Post
Send it to PAVO. The picture is directly from this year’s clinic powerpoint. Of course, since it is not CRS, do expect to be ignored.
I know this was from the rules clinic presentation. Still doesn't make it right to contradict an explicit rule.

Quote:
Originally Posted by IK13 View Post
While there - maybe tell them that the clinics themselves, in their current form, are outdated and a waste of time and money…
100% It's especially egregious when many officials in the lower 48 states are a 16 hour round trip drive from the nearest clinic location. Do those officials in Hawaii and Alaska travel to PAVO rules clinics?

I have every intention of speaking with those in charge about this. I may not be successful, but it won't stop me from trying.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Thu Sep 03, 2026, 01:24pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 117
...and a new note/clarification re CRS and timeouts today...

Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Sep 04, 2026, 09:38am
LET 'EM PLAY!!!
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Janesville, WI
Posts: 816
Send a message via ICQ to FMadera Send a message via AIM to FMadera Send a message via Yahoo to FMadera
I too struggled with this. I settled on the verbiage of the question which asked about *placement* and not *size.*

Other than that, yeah, it's maybe not the best illustration.
__________________
Felix A. Madera
USAV Indoor National / Beach Zonal Referee
FIVB Qualified International Scorer
PAVO National Referee / Certified Scorer
IHSA Certified Volleyball Referee
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Mon Sep 07, 2026, 03:07pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 116
Arrow

Quote:
Originally Posted by FMadera View Post
the question which asked about *placement* and not *size.*
Since a court diagram graphic was included with the question and "placed on the court" was part of the question, I think it would be reasonable to consider "placement" as the logo being placed on or affixed to the court, not the specific location on the court.

It continues to amaze me that those that create the exam(s) don't consider how their vague or incomplete questions can cause confusion and frustration.

The NFHS exams were rife with questions like this in the past. They have been substantially better in the last 10-15 years (though still not perfect - see the 2026 NFHS exam answer of "ball hits a backboard and would have remained in play...").
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
NCAA-M Shorts and logos Sharpshooternes Basketball 1 Mon Oct 23, 2017 07:27am
NCAA women's back court error Sharpshooternes Basketball 12 Mon Nov 02, 2015 06:27am
NCAA back court - is this a violation? bearclause Basketball 6 Sun Jan 31, 2010 06:39pm
Off-topic -- NCAA logos ChuckElias Basketball 5 Thu Oct 12, 2006 05:04pm
NCAA Womens 3 Person Court .gif NCAAREF Basketball 3 Fri Mar 03, 2006 03:53pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:37am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1