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Old Mon Sep 17, 2018, 12:16pm
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Player changing jersey number

This actually happened to me on Saturday, so I'd like feedback on whether we did the right thing. NCAAW rules.

The team has two players in libero jerseys, conveniently numbered #1 and #2. Libero #1 plays in the first set, and Libero #2 plays second set.

After the second set I overhear the coach tell regular player #10 to go change jerseys. When she comes back out, she is Libero #1. I didn't notice that she had played the second set as #10.

So now she wants to play the third set as #1. Since she started the match as #1, I allowed her to play as #1 and told the coach that she would not be allowed to change numbers going forward.

But should/could she have been sanctioned for playing after changing numbers in the previous set? Or should I not have allowed her to change back to #1, since I knew that she had been #10 in the second set?

Or is there something else I should've done? Any help appreciated.
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Old Tue Sep 18, 2018, 06:47pm
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This actually happened to me on Saturday, so I'd like feedback on whether we did the right thing. NCAAW rules.

The team has two players in libero jerseys, conveniently numbered #1 and #2. Libero #1 plays in the first set, and Libero #2 plays second set.

After the second set I overhear the coach tell regular player #10 to go change jerseys. When she comes back out, she is Libero #1. I didn't notice that she had played the second set as #10.

So now she wants to play the third set as #1. Since she started the match as #1, I allowed her to play as #1 and told the coach that she would not be allowed to change numbers going forward.

But should/could she have been sanctioned for playing after changing numbers in the previous set? Or should I not have allowed her to change back to #1, since I knew that she had been #10 in the second set?

Or is there something else I should've done? Any help appreciated.
The correct answer depends on the roster that was submitted prior to the start of the match. It is legal for a player to play as a libero wearing one number and play as a non-libero wearing a different number. In your scenario, the player should have been listed as 10/L1, or something like that. She is then free to play in any set as either Libero #1 or Player #10, but not both. In a five set match she could, for example, play in 3 sets as libero and 2 as a non-libero.

If she was listed only as a single number, then a loss of rally/point is assessed at the beginning of the set, or when she enters the set, and the roster is corrected.
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Old Tue Sep 18, 2018, 08:53pm
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The correct answer depends on the roster that was submitted prior to the start of the match. It is legal for a player to play as a libero wearing one number and play as a non-libero wearing a different number. In your scenario, the player should have been listed as 10/L1, or something like that. She is then free to play in any set as either Libero #1 or Player #10, but not both. In a five set match she could, for example, play in 3 sets as libero and 2 as a non-libero.

If she was listed only as a single number, then a loss of rally/point is assessed at the beginning of the set, or when she enters the set, and the roster is corrected.
I'm pretty sure there are no rosters submitted to officials for NCAAW.
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Old Tue Sep 18, 2018, 08:59pm
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7.1.2.8 Once the lineup sheet has been submitted for the first set, players may
not change numbers for the remainder of the match, unless the uniform is
damaged. (Exceptions: Rule 12.3.1.1.3 and Rule 11.3.7.3.)

11.3.7.3 is about blood on the jersey. 12.3.1.1.3 talks about redesignating a libero after an injury.

To me, it looks like you are correct. I don't see anything in the book that allows for a player to change her jersey number in that situation.
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Old Wed Sep 19, 2018, 07:23am
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7.1.2.8 Once the lineup sheet has been submitted for the first set, players may
not change numbers for the remainder of the match, unless the uniform is
damaged. (Exceptions: Rule 12.3.1.1.3 and Rule 11.3.7.3.)

11.3.7.3 is about blood on the jersey. 12.3.1.1.3 talks about redesignating a libero after an injury.

To me, it looks like you are correct. I don't see anything in the book that allows for a player to change her jersey number in that situation.
I saw that too -- but I didn't see a penalty listed in my brief perusal. Nor and answer to Scrapper's question about allowing her to "change back" *after* she'd played with the different number.
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