Fumbled Serve

[bob jenkins]

After the R beckons for serve, S1 fumbles the ball, which rolls into the court. (Anything, yet?) S1 runs on the court, recovers the ball (does it matter if a teammate helps or recovers the ball and throws it back to S1?), returns behind the end line, and tosses the ball and lets it fall--all before the 5-seconds has elapsed. The R rules a replay/re-serve. Correct ruling?

[Scrapper1]

Not in NCAA-W, but I'm quite sure that's not the ruleset you're discussing. (And I can't help with other rulesets.)

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Not in NCAA-W, but I'm quite sure that's not the ruleset you're discussing. (And I can't help with other rulesets.)

Yes -- this was HS -- but what is the NCAAW ruling?

[pavbref]

For NHFS rules: the server gets a re-serve unless this is the second re-serve in this term of service.
For NCCA-W rules: the server does not get a re-serve attempt.

[FMadera]

Originally Posted by pavbref

For NHFS rules: the server gets a re-serve unless this is the second re-serve in this term of service.
For NCCA-W rules: the server does not get a re-serve attempt.

Not sure I'd go with re-serve here in NFHS. A fumbled/lost ball isn't the same as a dropped toss for service.

If they get it back within the five seconds and serve, play on. If not, LOR.

[pavbref]

Per the NFHS Casebook:

8.1.6 Situation B: After the first referee's signal for serve, the server: (a) swings and misses the tossed ball; (b)swings, misses and the ball contacts her shoulder; (c) lets the tossed ball drop to the floor; (d) catches a bad toss; (e) tosses the ball, then lets it drop without swinging at it, but it touches the server's knee as it drops to the floor. Ruling: (a), (c), (d), and (e) re-serve; (b) illegal serve, point/loss of rally. Comment: in (b), if the ball had not been touched the server, but dropped to the floor, it would have been a re-serve; (e) no attempt was made to serve the ball.