Interference/Obstruction

[sp279]

Thank you'all...

Regarding the Obstruction cancellation, I should have worded that differently...she did reach the base she was going to but you are right, she could have tried to go back to second in reality...

As far as my using "in my opinion, judgment, etc." while I used that here to clarify for you'all more of what I was thinking; I actually don't use that verbiage in tongue. My discussions with coaches for the last 20 years are generally very short, pleasant and sweet. In this case, like most I told the coach "There was no interference, she had no play on the ball. However, I did call obstruction on your player coach! Please now leave the field or be ejected. Thank you." He left.

As far as throwing coaches out immediately after charging onto the field; I take it on a case by case basis. Sometimes coaches walk or jog out looking like they are going to kill you but they ask politely then for an explanation. Some walk out looking like they are going to offer flowers and tear into you. That Dog don't Hunt; 2 seconds and out.

[MD Longhorn]

Smh...

[jwwashburn]

sp279,

From what I read, you got the call right. Why did you think you might not have been correct? Did you look it up in the book after the game?

If I use the adjective "Charge", that coach will be getting ejected.

USSSA

RULE 11. SPORTSMANSHIP
Sec 2. A coach, player, substitute, attendant or other bench personnel shall not:

-P. Charge an Umpire.


PENALTY L-T: If it is the FIRST OFFENSE and is judged to be of a minor
nature, an offending player may be warned or an offending coach may be
restricted to the bench. If not minor or a subsequent offense, the Umpire shall
eject the offender from the game. Failure to comply shall result in the game
being forfeited. Any coach restricted to the bench shall be ejected for further
misconduct. A coach may leave the bench/dugout to attend to a player who
becomes ill or injured.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

sp279,

From what I read, you got the call right. Why did you think you might not have been correct? Did you look it up in the book after the game?

If I use the adjective "Charge", that coach will be getting ejected.

USSSA

RULE 11. SPORTSMANSHIP
Sec 2. A coach, player, substitute, attendant or other bench personnel shall not:

-P. Charge an Umpire.


PENALTY L-T: If it is the FIRST OFFENSE and is judged to be of a minor
nature, an offending player may be warned or an offending coach may be
restricted to the bench. If not minor or a subsequent offense, the Umpire shall
eject the offender from the game. Failure to comply shall result in the game
being forfeited. Any coach restricted to the bench shall be ejected for further
misconduct. A coach may leave the bench/dugout to attend to a player who
becomes ill or injured.

There is a difference between charging an umpire and charging onto the field.

[jwwashburn]

Good point

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

There is a difference between charging an umpire and charging onto the field.

I agree but usually when a HC is charges onto the field it is for the following reasons: (a) A player has become seriously injured; (b) To help quell a bench clearing brawl, (I have never had that happen in either a baseball or softball game yet, knock on my head, but have had it happen once in basketball.); or (c) To vehemently argue a call that an umpire has made. And (c) falls under the sportsmanlike rule and as you said can be either a minor offense or it can be the type where the HC buys the whole enchilada.

MTD, Sr.

[IRISHMAFIA]

But while we are on the subject of an umpire being charge, I find this the best way to handle it:

Hold up your left hand straight out, palm forward. Just as you would to hold up a pitcher, but keep it at chest level.

Calmly direct the individual to stop. Do not scream, that doesn't help.

If the individual keeps coming and makes contact with your hand or you feel the need to step back to avoid contact, ejection is an appropriate response. Do not try to stare or scream him/her down, search for the new head coach of that individuals team. Inform this individual of the ejection and the need to remove him/her from the field. Do not threaten with ultimatums. When you get the "I need to ask something" comment, suggest a post game conversation which can be appropriate, but at this point in time, you need to get back to playing the game.

If the individual does stop, calmly ask them to catch his/her breath and calm down. Talk, do not scream, that may exacerbate the situation. When the individual becomes calm, ask him/her, nicely, what you can do for them. Have a conversation, not an argument. Listen to what s/he has to say. Provide your ruling and move on with the game.

JMHO and mechanic that has worked for me and a few others

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

But while we are on the subject of an umpire being charge, I find this the best way to handle it:

Hold up your left hand straight out, palm forward. Just as you would to hold up a pitcher, but keep it at chest level.

Calmly direct the individual to stop. Do not scream, that doesn't help.

If the individual keeps coming and makes contact with your hand or you feel the need to step back to avoid contact, ejection is an appropriate response. Do not try to stare or scream him/her down, search for the new head coach of that individuals team. Inform this individual of the ejection and the need to remove him/her from the field. Do not threaten with ultimatums. When you get the "I need to ask something" comment, suggest a post game conversation which can be appropriate, but at this point in time, you need to get back to playing the game.

If the individual does stop, calmly ask them to catch his/her breath and calm down. Talk, do not scream, that may exacerbate the situation. When the individual becomes calm, ask him/her, nicely, what you can do for them. Have a conversation, not an argument. Listen to what s/he has to say. Provide your ruling and move on with the game.

JMHO and mechanic that has worked for me and a few others

It may be just me, but telling me to calm down has the opposite effect. Is there another phrase that could be used?

Rita