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Old Sat Feb 28, 2015, 02:50pm
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Same inning, a Defensive coach calls time and comes out and talks to her pitcher, after a couple of pitches the catcher calls time and runs out to her pitcher. I can't find a rule that indicates the catcher should not be ejected? Though we have always allowed catcher or other teammates to temporarily delay a game without penalty. Am I missing something on the rule set?

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Old Sat Feb 28, 2015, 03:40pm
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A charged conference is when a coach calls time to confer with members of their team. The catcher calling time to talk to the pitcher is not a charged conference.
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Old Sat Feb 28, 2015, 04:04pm
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6.10.4.3 A charged defensive conference begins when the game is delayed or suspended to deliver a message to the defense and ends when the team representative(s) enters dead-ball territory or the player returns to her position.

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Old Sat Feb 28, 2015, 04:24pm
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6.10.4.3 A charged defensive conference begins when the game is delayed or suspended to deliver a message to the defense and ends when the team representative(s) enters dead-ball territory or the player returns to her position.
But the catcher isn't a team representative.

4.11 Team Representative
A team representative is a member of the coaching staff (including volunteer and student coaches) or team manager.

6.10 Conferences
A charged conference is a delay in the game granted by the umpire to allow team
representatives or team representatives and players to confer.

Has to be team representative in the meeting to have it count as a charged conference
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Old Sat Feb 28, 2015, 04:34pm
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I dont diagree, and I know Im reading to much into the wording when the conference ends, but why insert this into:


or the player returns to her position.

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Old Sat Feb 28, 2015, 04:44pm
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I dont diagree, and I know Im reading to much into the wording when the conference ends, but why insert this into:


or the player returns to her position.
Because a representative doesnt have to come out of the dugout for there to be a charged conference. If the catcher were to call time and go to the dugout to speak with the coach, it is a charged conference that ends when the catcher returns to her position.
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Old Sat Feb 28, 2015, 04:55pm
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Ok thx, I pulled out the 2013 rule and found the definition for team representatives and it indicated head coach or designee.
No team definition in the 2014 and 2015 rule book.
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Old Mon Mar 02, 2015, 03:17pm
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Because a representative doesnt have to come out of the dugout for there to be a charged conference. If the catcher were to call time and go to the dugout to speak with the coach, it is a charged conference that ends when the catcher returns to her position.
And it may take quick thinking and preventative umpiring to avoid an administrative ejection if the catcher (or another defender) does this in an inning where the first charged conference has already been held...
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Ok thx, I pulled out the 2013 rule and found the definition for team representatives and it indicated head coach or designee.
No team definition in the 2014 and 2015 rule book.
Thx
Page 46 of the current NCAA rule book:

4.11 Team Representative
A team representative is a member of the coaching staff (including volunteer and student coaches) or team manager. Team representatives are entitled to confer with each other or with players during charged conferences.
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