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Old Wed Feb 25, 2015, 02:56am
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MTD, I rarely disagree with you, but double check. Art. 6 references umpires and tobacco in the 2015 book.
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Old Wed Feb 25, 2015, 03:02am
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MTD, I rarely disagree with you, but double check. Art. 6 references umpires and tobacco in the 2015 book.

This is straight from the 2014-15 NFHS Baseball Rules Book which you can find online if you are registered with the NFHS:

R10-S1-A6: No umpire may be replaced during a game unless he becomes ill or is injured. His right to disqualify players or to remove nonplayers for objecting to decisions or for unsportsmanlike conduct is absolute. Ejections will be made at the end of playing action.

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Old Wed Feb 25, 2015, 05:36am
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This is straight from the 2014-15 NFHS Baseball Rules Book which you can find online if you are registered with the NFHS.
Did you forget which board you're on?
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Old Wed Feb 25, 2015, 06:41am
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I missed 3 questions, it wont tell you which ones until the test closes but you can take a pretty good guess based on the rules it tells you to research. I know I missed the one about the weather, I missed another about a deflected ball and the third refered me to 10-2-3. The only other question on the test besides the weather that involved this section was:

Only the home plate umpire has the authority to enforce penalties restricting players and coaches to the dugout:

I answered false and apparently got the question wrong. I find it hard to believe this is reserved to only the plate umpire as he may have no knowledge of what a coach may have said to his partner.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 10:51am
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I missed 3 questions, it wont tell you which ones until the test closes but you can take a pretty good guess based on the rules it tells you to research. I know I missed the one about the weather, I missed another about a deflected ball and the third refered me to 10-2-3. The only other question on the test besides the weather that involved this section was:

Only the home plate umpire has the authority to enforce penalties restricting players and coaches to the dugout:

I answered false and apparently got the question wrong. I find it hard to believe this is reserved to only the plate umpire as he may have no knowledge of what a coach may have said to his partner.
I took my NFHS test online earlier this week and also got 3 wrong. I didn't get any clue about which ones they might be because I didn't see anything about which rules to research. After our test date closes in about a month we can go view the results and which questions we got wrong.

I don't recall any questions about weather directly. Question 91 stated:
After the game starts, the umpires are sole judges as to whether conditions, including grounds, are fit for play.

Did you mix up "weather" and "whether"?

One tricky one I came across was:
The plate umpire shall ask each team's adult coach if their teams are legally and properly equipped, and remind participants that appropriate sporting behavior is expected throughout the contest.

The book says this responsibility is for head coaches. 4-1-2-d Are head coaches adult coaches? Probably. Are all adult coaches head coaches? Probably not. I put false. Don't know if that was a wrong response.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 01:01pm
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One tricky one I came across was:
The plate umpire shall ask each team's adult coach if their teams are legally and properly equipped, and remind participants that appropriate sporting behavior is expected throughout the contest.

The book says this responsibility is for head coaches. 4-1-2-d Are head coaches adult coaches? Probably. Are all adult coaches head coaches? Probably not. I put false. Don't know if that was a wrong response.
I took my online test and we (Wisconsin) are given immediate feedback on which questions we got wrong. I answered this question FALSE for the same reason that you did and GOT IT WRONG!
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 01:13pm
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I took my online test and we (Wisconsin) are given immediate feedback on which questions we got wrong. I answered this question FALSE for the same reason that you did and GOT IT WRONG!
They probably think head coaches are adults.
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2015, 02:34pm
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I took my NFHS test online earlier this week and also got 3 wrong. I didn't get any clue about which ones they might be because I didn't see anything about which rules to research. After our test date closes in about a month we can go view the results and which questions we got wrong.

If you've taken the test already you're probably not one the lazy umpires Pierre was talking about! (this only makes sense if you were at the meeting!)


One tricky one I came across was:
The plate umpire shall ask each team's adult coach if their teams are legally and properly equipped, and remind participants that appropriate sporting behavior is expected throughout the contest.

The book says this responsibility is for head coaches. 4-1-2-d Are head coaches adult coaches? Probably. Are all adult coaches head coaches? Probably not. I put false. Don't know if that was a wrong response.
I think they are using adult coaches here for the scenario that for whatever reason the rostered head coach is unable to attend and his/her assistant is filling in until that person arrives. It eliminates having a captain from answering the questions and taking the responsibility.
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2015, 04:09pm
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I think they are using adult coaches here for the scenario that for whatever reason the rostered head coach is unable to attend and his/her assistant is filling in until that person arrives. It eliminates having a captain from answering the questions and taking the responsibility.
Not legal in NFHS.
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Old Sat Mar 07, 2015, 05:43pm
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What's not legal? If the head coach is not physically at the game site at the start time you can't require them to attend the conference.

By rule you are correct that if the assistant attends the pre-game meeting they are de facto head coach for that day but I have never seen a game where they didn't return that responsibility back to the rostered head coach and the umpires not allow that.
This following quote from you is illegal in NFHS. A captain cannot do that; it must be an adult head coach that is employed by the school to legally "in loco parentis".

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It eliminates having a captain from answering the questions and taking the responsibility.
If there isn't an adult head coach (or acting head coach) available, you may not play the game until there is. In many states, that would be a forfeit.
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Old Wed Feb 25, 2015, 03:19pm
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Did you forget which board you're on?

I knew what Forum I was in but I opened up the Baseball Rules Book without even thinking about it, . Junior was in the room with me studying for a Differential Equations exam and I even mentioned the discussion and that it was in the Softball Forum.

My wife and sons can't take me out in public anymore, . When ever we get to our game site the first think that Junior asks the AD is if his partner is already there, .

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Old Wed Feb 25, 2015, 04:53pm
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The second sentence in 10-1 says "Any umpire" ... "player, coach or bench personnel" ... "enforce prescribed penalties"

10-1-5 includes "remove nonplayers"

That covers it.
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Old Wed Feb 25, 2015, 11:11am
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MTD, I rarely disagree with you, but double check. Art. 6 references umpires and tobacco in the 2015 book.
I'll second that.
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