D3K, out of RL causes bad throw

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

ASA ONLY (Fed differs, so let's just discuss ASA).

Dropped 3rd strike deflected off of the catcher: BR, running outside the running lane, causes F2 to throw errant.

I know this is a nothing in ASA - ASA requires a quality throw in order to rule interference. But I'm looking for a case play to back it up. I don't have those here. Anyone have one?

We have a rule (8.2-E) that makes it interference for the BR, by running outside the running lane, to, in the umpire's judgment, interfere with the fielder "taking the throw". Since the only applicable rule doesn't make it interference to cause F2 to make an errant (or non-quality) throw, why do we need a case play for what isn't covered by the rule?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

We have a rule (8.2-E) that makes it interference for the BR, by running outside the running lane, to, in the umpire's judgment, interfere with the fielder "taking the throw". Since the only applicable rule doesn't make it interference to cause F2 to make an errant (or non-quality) throw, why do we need a case play for what isn't covered by the rule?

Some want to use 8-2-F-2 here, stating her presence where she wasn't supposed to be interfered with the fielder.

Yes, I know that's not correct... but I'd have sworn I'd seen case plays to this effect more than once.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Regardless of Rules Set. Please define a "quality throw" that would then trigger an interference call. Thanks.

MTD, Sr.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Regardless of Rules Set. Please define a "quality throw" that would then trigger an interference call. Thanks.

MTD, Sr.

A throw that would likely retire the runner.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

A throw that would likely retire the runner.

So if F2's throw plunks the B/R between the shoulder blades, that is a "quality throw" but if F2 attempts to throw over the B/R so as not to plunk the B/R between the shoulder blades and throws over the had of F3 that is not a "quality throw"?

MTD, Sr.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

So if F2's throw plunks the B/R between the shoulder blades, that is a "quality throw" but if F2 attempts to throw over the B/R so as not to plunk the B/R between the shoulder blades and throws over the had of F3 that is not a "quality throw"?

MTD, Sr.

yep......

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

So if F2's throw plunks the B/R between the shoulder blades, that is a "quality throw" but if F2 attempts to throw over the B/R so as not to plunk the B/R between the shoulder blades and throws over the had of F3 that is not a "quality throw"?

MTD, Sr.

Are you arguing or asking? Thought you were asking...

F2 is supposed to throw the ball to F3 to retire the runner. Just like they are supposed to if BR is in the lane. F2 is not rewarded for a crappy throw if BR gets in the way of it. F3 is supposed to do exactly what they would have had BR not been in the wrong place. It's that simple.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Are you arguing or asking? Thought you were asking...

F2 is supposed to throw the ball to F3 to retire the runner. Just like they are supposed to if BR is in the lane. F2 is not rewarded for a crappy throw if BR gets in the way of it. F3 is supposed to do exactly what they would have had BR not been in the wrong place. It's that simple.

It was a question/what if request. And thanks for the answers.

MTD, Sr.