giving the situation to new pitcher

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

Anyone I know.

Yes.

[CecilOne]

1) OK, I didn't see any disagreement about this.

2) Hijacking the new pitcher question just a bit, had to rule that 1 minute between innings applies even if the pitcher is changed; and even if the change is unreported.

3) A worse hijack. Recently, I have seen/heard the " "Out at two! Safe at one" (usually only one of them) with high level umps and wonder if I should adopt the same.

4) Same question about OBS ("Obstruction at 1st" or "Ostruction at 3rd")

[CecilOne]

Quote:
Originally Posted by shipwreck
He told me I was the only umpire he has ever had who wouldn't do this in his 6 years of coaching.

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

6 whole years?

Doesn't change pitchers much!

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Yes.

Apparently someone choses not to listen.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

4) Same question about OBS ("Obstruction at 1st" or "Ostruction at 3rd")

Wonder what s/he says if it is between bases, "Obstruction at 2.3"?

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

1) OK, I didn't see any disagreement about this.

2) Hijacking the new pitcher question just a bit, had to rule that 1 minute between innings applies even if the pitcher is changed; and even if the change is unreported.

3) A worse hijack. Recently, I have seen/heard the " "Out at two! Safe at one" (usually only one of them) with high level umps and wonder if I should adopt the same.

4) Same question about OBS ("Obstruction at 1st" or "Ostruction at 3rd")

I heard a MLB umpire last night saying "outside" and "low" and "inside" on close pitches. Just goes to show you how bad habits can stay with someone no matter the level. But trust me, I never thought of emulating him.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

I heard a MLB umpire last night saying "outside" and "low" and "inside" on close pitches. Just goes to show you how bad habits can stay with someone no matter the level. But trust me, I never thought of emulating him.

I don't consider it a bad habit. In baseball, it's done pretty frequently at the higher levels. I'll do it on pitches that are close and BALL-IN and BALL-OUT.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't consider it a bad habit. In baseball, it's done pretty frequently at the higher levels. I'll do it on pitches that are close and BALL-IN and BALL-OUT.

Really...so when you call a strike, do you say: "STRIKE! Caught the Corner!"

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Andy

Really...so when you call a strike, do you say: "STRIKE! Caught the Corner!"

False equivalence. I've heard every argument against it. I've not been swayed by any of them. I do it on very close pitches where I'd anticipate a coach saying, "Where was that pitch?" In my experience, it shuts down a majority of those questions.

I hear a fair number of D1 baseball and ML umpires do this, BTW.

Low/high? Never. In/out? Sure.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Rich

False equivalence...

Why?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

2) Hijacking the new pitcher question just a bit, had to rule that 1 minute between innings applies even if the pitcher is changed; and even if the change is unreported.

3) A worse hijack. Recently, I have seen/heard the " "Out at two! Safe at one" (usually only one of them) with high level umps and wonder if I should adopt the same.

4) Same question about OBS ("Obstruction at 1st" or "Ostruction at 3rd")

Any chance of a serious comment about the actual items?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

I heard a MLB umpire last night saying "outside" and "low" and "inside" on close pitches. Just goes to show you how bad habits can stay with someone no matter the level. But trust me, I never thought of emulating him.

I've offered the CATCHER a location, but s/he is the only one who heard it and it was not frequent. Now, if the catcher comes out with a "he said...", it stops.

I have no problem with an umpire discretely working WITH a catcher, but not coaching them. At times, it often helps the umpire control the game through the catcher as they will shut down the whiney pitcher or coach and keep the game moving.

I believe umpires LOVE working the plate with catchers who understand the entire game and will conduct the defense from behind the plate.

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I believe umpires LOVE working the plate with catchers who understand the entire game and will conduct the defense from behind the plate.

+1,000,000, love working with a catcher that understands the game and how it should be run.