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Old Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:19am
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Old Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:42pm
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1) OK, I didn't see any disagreement about this.

2) Hijacking the new pitcher question just a bit, had to rule that 1 minute between innings applies even if the pitcher is changed; and even if the change is unreported.

3) A worse hijack. Recently, I have seen/heard the " "Out at two! Safe at one" (usually only one of them) with high level umps and wonder if I should adopt the same.

4) Same question about OBS ("Obstruction at 1st" or "Ostruction at 3rd")
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Old Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:44pm
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He told me I was the only umpire he has ever had who wouldn't do this in his 6 years of coaching.

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6 whole years?
Doesn't change pitchers much!
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Apparently someone choses not to listen.
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Old Thu Jul 24, 2014, 09:46pm
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4) Same question about OBS ("Obstruction at 1st" or "Ostruction at 3rd")
Wonder what s/he says if it is between bases, "Obstruction at 2.3"?
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Old Fri Jul 25, 2014, 12:15pm
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1) OK, I didn't see any disagreement about this.

2) Hijacking the new pitcher question just a bit, had to rule that 1 minute between innings applies even if the pitcher is changed; and even if the change is unreported.

3) A worse hijack. Recently, I have seen/heard the " "Out at two! Safe at one" (usually only one of them) with high level umps and wonder if I should adopt the same.

4) Same question about OBS ("Obstruction at 1st" or "Ostruction at 3rd")
I heard a MLB umpire last night saying "outside" and "low" and "inside" on close pitches. Just goes to show you how bad habits can stay with someone no matter the level. But trust me, I never thought of emulating him.
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Old Fri Jul 25, 2014, 12:22pm
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I heard a MLB umpire last night saying "outside" and "low" and "inside" on close pitches. Just goes to show you how bad habits can stay with someone no matter the level. But trust me, I never thought of emulating him.
I don't consider it a bad habit. In baseball, it's done pretty frequently at the higher levels. I'll do it on pitches that are close and BALL-IN and BALL-OUT.
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Old Fri Jul 25, 2014, 04:46pm
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I don't consider it a bad habit. In baseball, it's done pretty frequently at the higher levels. I'll do it on pitches that are close and BALL-IN and BALL-OUT.
Really...so when you call a strike, do you say: "STRIKE! Caught the Corner!"
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Old Fri Jul 25, 2014, 05:22pm
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Really...so when you call a strike, do you say: "STRIKE! Caught the Corner!"
False equivalence. I've heard every argument against it. I've not been swayed by any of them. I do it on very close pitches where I'd anticipate a coach saying, "Where was that pitch?" In my experience, it shuts down a majority of those questions.

I hear a fair number of D1 baseball and ML umpires do this, BTW.

Low/high? Never. In/out? Sure.
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False equivalence...
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2) Hijacking the new pitcher question just a bit, had to rule that 1 minute between innings applies even if the pitcher is changed; and even if the change is unreported.

3) A worse hijack. Recently, I have seen/heard the " "Out at two! Safe at one" (usually only one of them) with high level umps and wonder if I should adopt the same.

4) Same question about OBS ("Obstruction at 1st" or "Ostruction at 3rd")
Any chance of a serious comment about the actual items?
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Old Sat Jul 26, 2014, 11:04am
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I heard a MLB umpire last night saying "outside" and "low" and "inside" on close pitches. Just goes to show you how bad habits can stay with someone no matter the level. But trust me, I never thought of emulating him.
I've offered the CATCHER a location, but s/he is the only one who heard it and it was not frequent. Now, if the catcher comes out with a "he said...", it stops.

I have no problem with an umpire discretely working WITH a catcher, but not coaching them. At times, it often helps the umpire control the game through the catcher as they will shut down the whiney pitcher or coach and keep the game moving.

I believe umpires LOVE working the plate with catchers who understand the entire game and will conduct the defense from behind the plate.
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Old Sat Jul 26, 2014, 10:18pm
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I believe umpires LOVE working the plate with catchers who understand the entire game and will conduct the defense from behind the plate.
+1,000,000, love working with a catcher that understands the game and how it should be run.
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