Whats the call?

[Multiple Sports]

About 15 yrs ago in USSSA ( slow pitch ), they would only give 2nd base on this play claiming that when you went back to to touch 1st base that was one of your bases and 2nd base was your second.

Now every code / level ( baseball & softball ) will give two bases putting the runner on third base.....

[LIUmp]

Be mindful of the appeal. State, "dead ball", then hesitate to allow base runners to complete their base running responsibilities, and announce the award of the bases.

[NJ Official]

I actually awarded one base each because the rules for this particular league allows only one base on a ball that goes out of play.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by NJ Official

I actually awarded one base each because the rules for this particular league allows only one base on a ball that goes out of play.

So why did you ask us the question?

And when you say, "one base on a ball that goes out of play," in what context does this particular league's rules state that? Is it for all situations (batted, thrown, pitched, kicked, carried, etc. etc.)? You could be using a ruling for one situation and applying it incorrectly.

[NJ Official]

Originally Posted by Manny A

So why did you ask us the question?

And when you say, "one base on a ball that goes out of play," in what context does this particular league's rules state that? Is it for all situations (batted, thrown, pitched, kicked, carried, etc. etc.)? You could be using a ruling for one situation and applying it incorrectly.

I asked the question because its a scenario that has not happened to me before so I thought I would share it and see what people thought about the play. The rule in this league is if a thrown ball goes out of play the runners get one base.

This is a forum to ask questions about softball rules isnt it?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by NJ Official

I asked the question because its a scenario that has not happened to me before so I thought I would share it and see what people thought about the play. The rule in this league is if a thrown ball goes out of play the runners get one base.

This is a forum to ask questions about softball rules isnt it?

Yes... but if you have local rules that supercede the rules used by the entire rest of the country, and we (the rest of the country) don't work in your local league... we're not sure what you expected by way of an answer here.

BTW - your local rule flies in the face of the rulebook of nearly ever established softball and baseball ruleset, at any level of play. Kind of an odd rule for a local league to have, to be honest.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

...an odd rule for a local league to have...

Covers the majority of local rules!

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by NJ Official

The rule in this league is if a thrown ball goes out of play the runners get one base.

So, under these special league rules, if a batter-runner is running to first base, and the shortstop makes a wild throw before the batter-runner gets to first, and the ball goes out of play, the award is...first base?

Not a very rewarding award...

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by NJ Official

I asked the question because its a scenario that has not happened to me before so I thought I would share it and see what people thought about the play. The rule in this league is if a thrown ball goes out of play the runners get one base.

This is a forum to ask questions about softball rules isnt it?

Yes it is. But if your league really has a sandlot "one base on an overthrow" house rule, and that's what you awarded, there really is no question. You did what you were supposed to do.

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

About 15 yrs ago in USSSA ( slow pitch ), they would only give 2nd base on this play claiming that when you went back to to touch 1st base that was one of your bases and 2nd base was your second.

That's still the USSSA rule today.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by BretMan

That's still the USSSA rule today.

( slow pitch ),

[BretMan]

Yep. The post I replied to said it was the slow pitch rule. Didn't think I needed to say it again. But for those keeping score at home...

SLOW PITCH!

[NJ Official]

I was just curious how others would have ruled on this that is why I did not mention the unique league rule regarding a thrown ball out of play. I am just trying to have some discussion about a play that happened, this board is not very active. Wasnt expecting to be questioned about why I posted what I did or how bad the rule is in a league where I umpire games where I do not make up the rules.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NJ Official

I was just curious how others would have ruled on this that is why I did not mention the unique league rule regarding a thrown ball out of play. I am just trying to have some discussion about a play that happened, this board is not very active. Wasnt expecting to be questioned about why I posted what I did or how bad the rule is in a league where I umpire games where I do not make up the rules.

Well, to start, you are from Jersey

When you ask a rules question, you should provide the rule set. If a local rule, many on this site may not respond, or give you a response base upon other rule sets.

You set the play, got the accurate response and then hit the board with a rule that does not exists in many, if not most, places.

You are a new poster and I'm sure folks thought you were looking for help.

[NJ Official]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Well, to start, you are from Jersey

When you ask a rules question, you should provide the rule set. If a local rule, many on this site may not respond, or give you a response base upon other rule sets.

You set the play, got the accurate response and then hit the board with a rule that does not exists in many, if not most, places.

You are a new poster and I'm sure folks thought you were looking for help.

I wasn't trying to "hit" anyone with a rule, just saying I awarded one base because of the rules specific to that league. I wasn't saying anyone was wrong, just saying why I didn't award two bases.