When to kill the play?

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Ran on the field ... maybe no ejection.
...screaming at me ... definite ejection.

Again, my point is that without being there, we can't judge the screaming at me part. If the coach runs on the field during play and runs at me screaming, not at the injured player, then yes immediately ejection. If the coach runs on the field, to the athlete, but is screaming at me while going to the athlete, then it depends on the volume, words used, and other factors so it is a HTBT situation for me. I likely also would have to take into consideration the way the player was hit as well. If it's borderline serious injury, I might let things slide. If the ball hits off the players foot and she is hopping up and down on her other foot and the coach comes out screaming (or likely not screaming in this case) during play that will likely be the last play they see unless someone records the game for them to see later.

[Dakota]

Seeing a player injured can be emotional. I allow coaches to be emotional, just not abusive. So, "yelling at me" while running onto the field to attend to an injured player is not NECESSARILY and immediate ejection.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Seeing a player injured can be emotional. I allow coaches to be emotional, just not abusive. So, "yelling at me" while running onto the field to attend to an injured player is not NECESSARILY and immediate ejection.

He was insulting and affecting the play.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

He was insulting ...

Then that would be abusive, right?

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

He was insulting and affecting the play.

Again, it is a HTBT situation. Insulting and affecting the play, likely is an ejection from me, but without seeing everything about the play, I can't make a call.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by chapmaja

Again, it is a HTBT situation. Insulting and affecting the play, likely is an ejection from me, but without seeing everything about the play, I can't make a call.

I never asked a question about this, just posted support of the OP.

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Even in that situation, IMMEDIATE medical attention isn't going to happen immediately. How quickly will a trainer run out there, if he/she is even at the park?

You have to use discretion here. Most often when a significant injury occurs, the players themselves tend to stop playing, and the umpire can kill things pretty quickly. But if the two teams are still actively playing, letting the play come to a usual end won't cause more harm to the injured player. From an umpiring perspective, it's easier to let the play finish than to kill it immediately and then try to figure out where to place runners.

Now, obviously if someone runs onto the field from the dugout or bleachers to tend to the injured player, you'll have to kill play.

I once umpired a LL Big League (17-18) baseball state tournament game, and I was U2. The batter hit a fly ball deep into the left-center field gap. F7 and F8 were both running for the ball, and collided pretty significantly with each other. I chased, and when I saw the collision, I didn't kill play, even though both fielders were writhing on the ground. By the time F6 went out to retrieve the ball at the fence, the BR had scored an inside-the-parker.

The defensive manager, after going to check on his players, one of whom had to be taken out of the game, chastised me for not killing play right away. He felt I should have called Time so that his players could be tended to immediately. I replied, "Coach, what good would it have done for you to get out there 15-20 seconds sooner?"

One thing to consider is even if immediate care can not be provided to a player, because the trainer or trained medical staff is not close to the field, other considerations need to come into play.

For example, if the player may have suffered a head injury, any further contact to the head may make an injury worse. If a player has a bone sticking out, any further contact could make the injury worse.

These are things to consider as well as if medical treatment can arrive within the time they play may continue.