backgrounds checks in all states?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

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ALLOWS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR IDENTIFY THEFT.

I worry more about the information left in dugouts and on the desks of some school office workers.

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I worry more about the information left in dugouts and on the desks of some school office workers.

Technically here in NY, lineup cards are supposed to have the first and last names of the players on them. I have NEVER enforced this. What if someone get a hold of that, and starts looking up names on social media?? The theoretical reason behind this is so, in case a kid gets hurt, we can fill out our liability report. Well, I do not know about you, since I have 48 hours to fill this out, I personally am calling the AD's office the next and finding out.

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Technically here in NY, lineup cards are supposed to have the first and last names of the players on them. I have NEVER enforced this. What if someone get a hold of that, and starts looking up names on social media?? The theoretical reason behind this is so, in case a kid gets hurt, we can fill out our liability report. Well, I do not know about you, since I have 48 hours to fill this out, I personally am calling the AD's office the next and finding out.

Virtually every rule book requires first and last names. This isn't something unique to NY. NY just so happens to use ASA rules that require this. The "theoretical reason" behind it was never contemplated by ASA and has nothing at all to do with the rule.

Remember, every time who choose to not enforce a rule, particularly one as simple as this, you run the risk of causing problems for the future umpires who work games for the same team. Don't be the "previous umpire said it was okay."

Yours is not to choose which rules to enforce.

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Oh, and in NYS, new sports officials have to submit fingerprints, and a form. We got lucky, as they grandfathered all existing officials. And it does cover you all though the state for all sports.

But it still makes it even more difficult to find new umpires. Our clinic fee is $75...membership 1st year $75, then they have to pay in MAY for the next year another $75, PLUS all the gear, and now ANOTHER $60-75 for fingerprinting. No wonder we can't get people to start umpiring.

And just FYI, the starting level school fee around here is $68 this year, so someone has to work about 10 games the first year - just to break even!

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

But it still makes it even more difficult to find new umpires. Our clinic fee is $75...membership 1st year $75, then they have to pay in MAY for the next year another $75, PLUS all the gear, and now ANOTHER $60-75 for fingerprinting. No wonder we can't get people to start umpiring.

You charge for clinics ????

We allow new umps to work for the first association dues, except the required registrations like ASA & NFHS.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Maybe some of our Texas friends can shed some light on this, but there was a story a couple years ago where a couple of law enforcement officers that refused to register because the local association refused to accept the BI routinely done for their job.

Not sure of the validity, just remember the story from an ASA meeting a couple years ago.

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Maybe some of our Texas friends can shed some light on this, but there was a story a couple years ago where a couple of law enforcement officers that refused to register because the local association refused to accept the BI routinely done for their job.

Don't remember that story so I can't confirm or deny. The state organization does the background check as a part of regular state dues.

[PATRICK]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Oh, and in NYS, new sports officials have to submit fingerprints, and a form. We got lucky, as they grandfathered all existing officials. And it does cover you all though the state for all sports.

But it still makes it even more difficult to find new umpires. Our clinic fee is $75...membership 1st year $75, then they have to pay in MAY for the next year another $75, PLUS all the gear, and now ANOTHER $60-75 for fingerprinting. No wonder we can't get people to start umpiring.

And just FYI, the starting level school fee around here is $68 this year, so someone has to work about 10 games the first year - just to break even!

I'm taking that class this year, as I started working In Port.

I am required to work one full year of Jr Hi and another full year of JV before I am considered ready for varsity.

I have already worked Army, Marist and Iona with board members!

Plus, I worked in a daycare two years ago and the clearances were $35 & $20 in Pa.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by PATRICK

I'm taking that class this year, as I started working In Port.

I prefer Cabernet!

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Originally Posted by PATRICK

I'm taking that class this year, as I started working In Port.

I am required to work one full year of Jr Hi and another full year of JV before I am considered ready for varsity.

I have already worked Army, Marist and Iona with board members!

Plus, I worked in a daycare two years ago and the clearances were $35 & $20 in Pa.

You coming to the CHVBGSO class next week, Patrick?

[PATRICK]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

You coming to the CHVBGSO class next week, Patrick?

It's tomorrow night now.

[dantip]

here in me. they are required and all i know is i dont pay for it and couldnt tell you who does!! it is also a one and done deal.not every year!

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Technically here in NY, lineup cards are supposed to have the first and last names of the players on them. I have NEVER enforced this. What if someone get a hold of that, and starts looking up names on social media?? The theoretical reason behind this is so, in case a kid gets hurt, we can fill out our liability report. Well, I do not know about you, since I have 48 hours to fill this out, I personally am calling the AD's office the next and finding out.

I think you're going a little extreme here.

High school players have their names publicized all over the place. They get announced during pregame, when they come to bat, when they enter the game as a sub, etc. They get mentioned in newspaper accounts of games, sometimes with pictures of them. Many many high schools have websites for school sports with team rosters and pictures. Some schools even stream their games live on the web for family members to watch from anywhere on the globe, and players names are announced there.

If someone with ill intent really wanted to get the first and last name of a softball player, I seriously doubt they would go looking for a team lineup card.