Background Checks

[Cub42]

http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet...p.asp?ID=61752

Here we go!

[SAump]

Is there any benefit to adding on to the list?

1) Dirty nukes, 2) Hazardous waste, 3) Toxic drinking water, 4) Subway chemical leak, 5) Robbing banks w/ explosive jackets, 6) Die Hard One, 7) Die Hard Two, ...

"(Later the idiosyncratic Salvador Dalí explained it as: "There is only one difference between a madman and me. I am not mad.")"

I remember a time when police would actually wait for a crime to occur. The only thing background checks provide is another source of income for those affilliated with law enforcement groups. {Edited to add final thoughts on the matter: If BC were free, the whole idea wouldn't fly. But at $80 a pop, who's the crook?}

Is it really safe for police to plant surrealistic images in such a very public manner?

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by SAump

The only thing background checks provide is another source of income for those affilliated with law enforcement groups.

Utter nonsense.

Correctly managed, background checks can and have proved very useful in the amateur sports arena.

Locally, they have uncovered at least three officials with convictions of deviant sexual behavior, and on the west side of the state a couple of youth coaches with child molesting backgrounds have been exposed.

That said, that isn't what the MLB umpires are opposed to.

[DG]

Originally Posted by SAump

I remember a time when police would actually wait for a crime to occur. The only thing background checks provide is another source of income for those affilliated with law enforcement groups.

Law enforcement officers are also open to background checks before employment and even then some slip through that should never be. And then there are school teachers, social workers, coaches.....

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Utter nonsense.

Correctly managed, background checks can and have proved very useful in the amateur sports arena.

Locally, they have uncovered at least three officials with convictions of deviant sexual behavior, and on the west side of the state a couple of youth coaches with child molesting backgrounds have been exposed.

That said, that isn't what the MLB umpires are opposed to.

In Northern Virginia earlier this month a high school Spanish teacher who also coached the girls and boys track and field teams was arrested for attempting to arrange sex with minor over the internet. At a bond hearing today his bail was denied.

Our nations youth need to be protected against these types of predators.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by DG

Law enforcement officers are also open to background checks before employment and even then some slip through that should never be. And then there are school teachers, social workers, coaches.....

I get fingerprinted and undergo a Washington State Patrol and NCIC background check every two years.

I'm a bit confused about the fingerprinting part. It's as if they're expecting them to change.

In addition to that backgournd check for teaching, I undergo background checks every two years for my officiating activities separately.

Since the years don't align, I end up undergoing a background check annually.

And they still haven't caught me.

[BretMan]

"In Northern Virginia earlier this month a high school Spanish teacher who also coached the girls and boys track and field teams was arrested for attempting to arrange sex with minor over the internet."

The unfortunate thing is that, unless this teacher had ever been caught/arrested for a similar crime, a standard background check would have revealed nothing.

That is, it would have done absolutely nothing to "protect our youth from this type of predator".

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by msavakinas

out of pure curiousity... what do you teach?

This year?

2 classes of Computer Applications and three classes of Marketing Management.


I have 14 endorsements (Washington's term for teaching certificate).

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by BretMan

"In Northern Virginia earlier this month a high school Spanish teacher who also coached the girls and boys track and field teams was arrested for attempting to arrange sex with minor over the internet."

The unfortunate thing is that, unless this teacher had ever been caught/arrested for a similar crime, a standard background check would have revealed nothing.

That is, it would have done absolutely nothing to "protect our youth from this type of predator".

However, for reasons known only to them, many predators with records continue to try to work with youth and do get caught by background checks.

As I posted above, we have had a couple turn up on background checks here in Spokane and a few on the west side of the state.

[MadCityRef]

Wisconsin teaching credentials (license) require two sets of fingerprints: One to the FBI for a check, the other for the WI state police.

Irony since WIAA (Wisc., not Wash.) has no background check. Soooo, all you predators, come on by!!!


The MLB umpires should tell their neighbors to answer 'yes' to all questions.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by MadCityRef

Wisconsin teaching credentials (license) require two sets of fingerprints: One to the FBI for a check, the other for the WI state police.

Irony since WIAA (Wisc., not Wash.) has no background check. Soooo, all you predators, come on by!!!


The MLB umpires should tell their neighbors to answer 'yes' to all questions.

Our fingerprints are done digitally now, so they take them once and can send them to numerous agencies.

NCIC or National Crime Information Center, one of the check we go through, is the data base the FBI uses.

The MiLB umpires, below Triple A, have yet to agree to these background checks.

[greymule]

Checking for a record of serious sex offenses (or violent felonies) is one thing, but (from the article) what does KKK membership have to do with protecting youth from predators? The great liberal icon Hugo L. Black belonged to the Klan. So did Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia.

Should umpires be asked whether they ever belonged to the Communist Party? Whether they own a gun or hunt? Whether they favor affirmative action? Whether they eat meat or wear fur? Whether they ever used illegal drugs? Should all umpires have to be adjudged politically correct?

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by greymule

Checking for a record of serious sex offenses (or violent felonies) is one thing, but (from the article) what does KKK membership have to do with protecting youth from predators? The great liberal icon Hugo L. Black belonged to the Klan. So did Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia.

Should umpires be asked whether they ever belonged to the Communist Party? Whether they own a gun or hunt? Whether they favor affirmative action? Whether they eat meat or wear fur? Whether they ever used illegal drugs? Should all umpires have to be adjudged politically correct?

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[kylejt]

They're looking for people who can be targeted for blackmail.

If a "bad guy" finds something out about you that you didn't want to be made public, you might do something that you normally wouldn't to keep it a secret.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by greymule

Should umpires be asked whether they ever belonged to the Communist Party? Whether they own a gun or hunt? Whether they favor affirmative action? Whether they eat meat or wear fur? Whether they ever used illegal drugs? Should all umpires have to be adjudged politically correct?

I think you're confusing a criminal background check with a detailed investigation of a person's past. The former is under discussion here, and it involves checking a person's fingerprints and other ID info against a national database of convicted felons, especially sex offenders. No investigation of party affiliations or organization membership is involved -- that would be too time consuming, and there's no law enforcement database of that info.