backgrounds checks in all states?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Insane Blue

I have been informed that someone who currently works HS sports locally is a sex offender but is being protected by others. This is a real sore spot growing up I knew of at least one kid molested by someone who was involved with youth sports.

CO just added a requirement to provide an arrest report every three years, and account for the disposition of all arrests that show on the report. I still doubt it will do any good.

The kid you knew, was he molested by a sports official in a way aided by that officials duties as an official?

I've never been left alone with a kid in a school, nor should I be. I don't understand what dangerous contact is currently going on that would be eliminated by background checks.

[HugoTafurst]

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(snip) Heck, you spent half that much for a cup that doesn't protect you.

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[IRISHMAFIA]

It is a waste of time, waste of money, it is unnecessary, provides absolutely NOTHING, but a false sense of accomplishment.

And it is an invasion of privacy. A couple years ago, I almost walked out of a Regional Clinic because ASA's president-elect at the time basically accused anyone who had a problem with a BI as having something to hide. If it wouldn't have screwed over my fellow clinicians, I would have been gone.

I am tired of the cowardly fashion in which the people of this country act and I will not forfeit what freedom I have left simply to satisfy some Gestapo-style sense of "community".

BTW, I've had everyone up my tail, FBI, NIS(NCIS to the younger folks), DOD, DIS & state police and that doesn't include anyone involving my present job. So, to me, it is the mere stupidity of the people involved and the unnecessary invasion of my life by people who are no more qualified to determine my character than they are to turn water into wine with a wave of the hand.

And, just for the record, I had this exact discussion with Phil G. Like everything else with the ASA hierarchy, they don't handle any type of dissent very well.

[Insane Blue]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Invades privacy, gives personal info to unnecessary irresponsible people, is not reliable or universal,
ALLOWS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR IDENTIFY THEFT.

ll the information need for Identity Fraud is already given to all the organizations. so that goes out the window. We fill out how many 1099 forms every year? plus my credit is so bad that no one would want it.

[nopachunts]

In Texas, one-third of the officials that belong to Texas Association of Sports Officials have a criminal background check performed every year. TASO is the organization that assigns officials for softball, baseball, football, volleyball, soccer, and basketball high school sports. All members are checked at least once every three years. Some school districts perform their CBCs.

[Little Jimmy]

Maryland does not require background checks for high school officials.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

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ALLOWS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR IDENTIFY THEFT.

I worry more about the information left in dugouts and on the desks of some school office workers.

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I worry more about the information left in dugouts and on the desks of some school office workers.

Technically here in NY, lineup cards are supposed to have the first and last names of the players on them. I have NEVER enforced this. What if someone get a hold of that, and starts looking up names on social media?? The theoretical reason behind this is so, in case a kid gets hurt, we can fill out our liability report. Well, I do not know about you, since I have 48 hours to fill this out, I personally am calling the AD's office the next and finding out.

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Technically here in NY, lineup cards are supposed to have the first and last names of the players on them. I have NEVER enforced this. What if someone get a hold of that, and starts looking up names on social media?? The theoretical reason behind this is so, in case a kid gets hurt, we can fill out our liability report. Well, I do not know about you, since I have 48 hours to fill this out, I personally am calling the AD's office the next and finding out.

Virtually every rule book requires first and last names. This isn't something unique to NY. NY just so happens to use ASA rules that require this. The "theoretical reason" behind it was never contemplated by ASA and has nothing at all to do with the rule.

Remember, every time who choose to not enforce a rule, particularly one as simple as this, you run the risk of causing problems for the future umpires who work games for the same team. Don't be the "previous umpire said it was okay."

Yours is not to choose which rules to enforce.

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Oh, and in NYS, new sports officials have to submit fingerprints, and a form. We got lucky, as they grandfathered all existing officials. And it does cover you all though the state for all sports.

But it still makes it even more difficult to find new umpires. Our clinic fee is $75...membership 1st year $75, then they have to pay in MAY for the next year another $75, PLUS all the gear, and now ANOTHER $60-75 for fingerprinting. No wonder we can't get people to start umpiring.

And just FYI, the starting level school fee around here is $68 this year, so someone has to work about 10 games the first year - just to break even!

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

But it still makes it even more difficult to find new umpires. Our clinic fee is $75...membership 1st year $75, then they have to pay in MAY for the next year another $75, PLUS all the gear, and now ANOTHER $60-75 for fingerprinting. No wonder we can't get people to start umpiring.

You charge for clinics ????

We allow new umps to work for the first association dues, except the required registrations like ASA & NFHS.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Maybe some of our Texas friends can shed some light on this, but there was a story a couple years ago where a couple of law enforcement officers that refused to register because the local association refused to accept the BI routinely done for their job.

Not sure of the validity, just remember the story from an ASA meeting a couple years ago.

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Maybe some of our Texas friends can shed some light on this, but there was a story a couple years ago where a couple of law enforcement officers that refused to register because the local association refused to accept the BI routinely done for their job.

Don't remember that story so I can't confirm or deny. The state organization does the background check as a part of regular state dues.

[PATRICK]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Oh, and in NYS, new sports officials have to submit fingerprints, and a form. We got lucky, as they grandfathered all existing officials. And it does cover you all though the state for all sports.

But it still makes it even more difficult to find new umpires. Our clinic fee is $75...membership 1st year $75, then they have to pay in MAY for the next year another $75, PLUS all the gear, and now ANOTHER $60-75 for fingerprinting. No wonder we can't get people to start umpiring.

And just FYI, the starting level school fee around here is $68 this year, so someone has to work about 10 games the first year - just to break even!

I'm taking that class this year, as I started working In Port.

I am required to work one full year of Jr Hi and another full year of JV before I am considered ready for varsity.

I have already worked Army, Marist and Iona with board members!

Plus, I worked in a daycare two years ago and the clearances were $35 & $20 in Pa.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Technically here in NY, lineup cards are supposed to have the first and last names of the players on them. I have NEVER enforced this. What if someone get a hold of that, and starts looking up names on social media?? The theoretical reason behind this is so, in case a kid gets hurt, we can fill out our liability report. Well, I do not know about you, since I have 48 hours to fill this out, I personally am calling the AD's office the next and finding out.

I think you're going a little extreme here.

High school players have their names publicized all over the place. They get announced during pregame, when they come to bat, when they enter the game as a sub, etc. They get mentioned in newspaper accounts of games, sometimes with pictures of them. Many many high schools have websites for school sports with team rosters and pictures. Some schools even stream their games live on the web for family members to watch from anywhere on the globe, and players names are announced there.

If someone with ill intent really wanted to get the first and last name of a softball player, I seriously doubt they would go looking for a team lineup card.