Correct call?

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

There is no judgement necessary regarding whether someone had a play, when the ball strikes the runner. The new sitch is an out as well.

In THIS sitch, true; because it hasn't passed an infielder. As a blanket an unqualified statement, NOT true. If the ball has passed an infielder before striking the runner, there IS judgment necessary.

Chapmaja, I am wondering. You post situations, cite the rule, but question if you made the correct call because players questioned it? What is it you are looking for?

[MD Longhorn]

Good point. I didn't want to muddy the water so to speak - he was questioning whether the possible non-existence of a play mattered before it had passed and infielder. My blanket statement was intended to cover only that situation - but the way I worded it, it could have been misunderstood. Thanks for the clarification.

[CecilOne]

I think you (we) are saying:
1) ball striking runner before infielder does not require a possible play
2) even if possible, play is negated by the IDB
3) the time judgment is needed is whether another fielder could get an out

Also, isn't the DP ruling based on interference with a fielder or thrown ball and not a batted ball?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Good point. I didn't want to muddy the water so to speak - he was questioning whether the possible non-existence of a play mattered before it had passed and infielder. My blanket statement was intended to cover only that situation - but the way I worded it, it could have been misunderstood. Thanks for the clarification.

I don't think so. A clear scenario was given. Offering a response based upon what isn't offered is another thread. Response to multiple scenarios, especially those not offered, is what muddies the waters.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I don't think so. A clear scenario was given. Offering a response based upon what isn't offered is another thread. Response to multiple scenarios, especially those not offered, is what muddies the waters.

Maybe, but offering a slightly different play is often helpful in explaining why the proposed rationale is valid or invalid.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Adam

Maybe, but offering a slightly different play is often helpful in explaining why the proposed rationale is valid or invalid.

Another play? Okay, but isn't what was offered.