Runner touches home before 1b appeal

[DeputyUICHousto]

Originally Posted by bwbuddy

Runner on 3rd, 2 outs. Batter hits ground ball to SS, throw pulls first baseman off of bag, but batter-runner runs over the base without touching it. After runner from third had touched home, first baseman appeals and tags first base before batter runner returns to it. Batter runner is out, does run score?

Batter/runner never legally achieved first base!!!

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto

Batter/runner never achieved first base!!!

[rant] In my opinion, that is the type of answer that adds to confusion. I know of no ruleset that speaks of achieving a base, and, frankly, don't know exactly what that could mean. Have you achieved a base when it is passed, touched, or even awarded without reaching it?

The best answers are those that use the rule book verbiage, and make no effort to add a personal flavor. Either the batter-runner touched first base safely, or was put out prior to first touching the base; that is all that matters in determining if the run scored. Anything else only muddies the water for those looking for reasons to reinterpret a rule. [/rant]

[jwwashburn]

+1