Last HS game of the season....

[LIUmp]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Here in NYS, all competitive public school athletics are administered by the NYSPHSAA - Yes the term 'high school' is part of the name. As is 'public' - even though in many places, some parochial schools are members of the various sections in the state. They charter the groups for each sport, who in turn charters the local groups.

I would be curious for the rationale of separating the two school levels...

I'm in NYS...and it's separated. Varsity is high school ball, JV is a step younger and below, and Modified/middle school/junior high is, well, NOT high school ball.

They even use some different rules modifications.

On edit: For example, they are only allowed 3 walks and 3 advances in a half inning, and after that, you only call strikes and there is no "advancing" to the next base. Also, they don't keep track of team win loss records, there is no playoffs, and for junior high (which the above poster is referring to), you bat your entire lineup, you have 10 players play the field, and if a team bats around in an inning, then you "switch sides".

[grounder]

Originally Posted by LIUmp

I'm in NYS...and it's separated. Varsity is high school ball, JV is a step younger and below, and Modified/middle school/junior high is, well, NOT high school ball.

They even use some different rules modifications.

On edit: For example, they are only allowed 3 walks and 3 advances in a half inning, and after that, you only call strikes and there is no "advancing" to the next base. Also, they don't keep track of team win loss records, there is no playoffs, and for junior high (which the above poster is referring to), you bat your entire lineup, you have 10 players play the field, and if a team bats around in an inning, then you "switch sides".

these rules are certainly not nysso approved for any level. no such animal as limiting 3 walks per inning or 3 advances. and bat the entire lineup? no way.......this must be a special adaption for the modified (7th and 8th grade) for you own section. if so, its unique

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Originally Posted by LIUmp

I'm in NYS...and it's separated. Varsity is high school ball, JV is a step younger and below, and Modified/middle school/junior high is, well, NOT high school ball.

They even use some different rules modifications.

On edit: For example, they are only allowed 3 walks and 3 advances in a half inning, and after that, you only call strikes and there is no "advancing" to the next base. Also, they don't keep track of team win loss records, there is no playoffs, and for junior high (which the above poster is referring to), you bat your entire lineup, you have 10 players play the field, and if a team bats around in an inning, then you "switch sides".

Wow - our only mods are:

10 players

no U3K

no - sigh - run rule

no extras - games can end in a tie

No official keeping of W-L, but they all do anyways...

And we have been 'advised' that if a coach seems to be taking it too seriously, to 'remind' them.

What section is LI, LIB? I am in Section 9 - Orange/Ulster/Sullivan. Each county has its own umpiring group, and I am in Orange. However, one school in Sullivan is a member of the Orange County IAA. On the other hand, I work volleyball in the fall, and we cover all three counties for that!

[LIUmp]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Wow - our only mods are:

10 players

no U3K

no - sigh - run rule

no extras - games can end in a tie

No official keeping of W-L, but they all do anyways...

And we have been 'advised' that if a coach seems to be taking it too seriously, to 'remind' them.

What section is LI, LIB? I am in Section 9 - Orange/Ulster/Sullivan. Each county has its own umpiring group, and I am in Orange. However, one school in Sullivan is a member of the Orange County IAA. On the other hand, I work volleyball in the fall, and we cover all three counties for that!

I'm in section XI. Your section is scheduled to play our section for the B super regionals. I have the AA Long Island regional championship and then I'll be heading up for the state championship next Saturday. I met two of your guys last year (I think they were from 9). Nice guys.

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Originally Posted by LIUmp

I'm in section XI. Your section is scheduled to play our section for the B super regionals. I have the AA Long Island regional championship and then I'll be heading up for the state championship next Saturday. I met two of your guys last year (I think they were from 9). Nice guys.

Jacobs and Ewanciw, right? Ewanciw is our group president, and Jake is a good umping friend.

Since you obviously have been to the NYSSO school, the woman who does plate mechanics up there, Kathy, was our group president for a long time, and is now NYS ASA UIC. Perhaps you also met Bruce Wittman up there - he used to do base mechanics up there also. We really have a great advantage, as these two run our new officials clinic, so all our new people get the real deal for their training. I help out every year, as it is a real nice refresher on both rules and mechanics.

I think that we only have two B teams in the section! The division in the school sizes makes for almost skipping over from A to C, and then very few Ds also.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Jacobs and Ewanciw, right? Ewanciw is our group president, and Jake is a good umping friend.

Since you obviously have been to the NYSSO school, the woman who does plate mechanics up there, Kathy, was our group president for a long time, and is now NYS ASA UIC. Perhaps you also met Bruce Wittman up there - he used to do base mechanics up there also. We really have a great advantage, as these two run our new officials clinic, so all our new people get the real deal for their training. I help out every year, as it is a real nice refresher on both rules and mechanics.

I think that we only have two B teams in the section! The division in the school sizes makes for almost skipping over from A to C, and then very few Ds also.

I umpired with a John Ewanciw last year at a National. Terrific, best partner I had there.

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I umpired with a John Ewanciw last year at a National. Terrific, best partner I had there.

Polish guy - crew cut, right?

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I umpired with a John Ewanciw last year at a National. Terrific, best partner I had there.

Which National?