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Old Fri May 24, 2013, 08:40am
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While this conversation is occuring, the defensive coach comes out to give his opinion
Where the F#$#^# was your partner?!?!?! This should never ever ever ever ever (enough ever's yet? No...) EVER happen.

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Yuck. No. You were there, you saw it, you made the call. Dipshiznit's opinion from 90 feet away is immaterial. You going to start changing other calls when the coaches disagree with you?
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Old Fri May 24, 2013, 02:27pm
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Where the F#$#^# was your partner?!?!?! This should never ever ever ever ever (enough ever's yet? No...) EVER happen.
Partner? In rec ball? ROTFLMFAO!!
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Old Fri May 24, 2013, 02:33pm
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Partner? In rec ball? ROTFLMFAO!!
Adult slowpitch, I agree with you.

Youth ball? You can't call a 12-14 youth game solo with any degree of accuracy - might as well have no umpires. I believe I can only recall being asked to call 14U solo one time in my far too many years of this.
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Old Fri May 24, 2013, 03:12pm
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Adult slowpitch, I agree with you.

Youth ball? You can't call a 12-14 youth game solo with any degree of accuracy - might as well have no umpires. I believe I can only recall being asked to call 14U solo one time in my far too many years of this.
99% of the travel games in Minnesota, 10U - 18U, are one umpire.

Fact of life in Minnesota.

The leagues would rather put up with missed calls than pay for a second umpire.
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Old Fri May 24, 2013, 03:42pm
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99% of the travel games in Minnesota, 10U - 18U, are one umpire.

Fact of life in Minnesota.

The leagues would rather put up with missed calls than pay for a second umpire.
Marketing 101. Price in a way to incentivize what you want to happen. Now, maybe you don't have the manpower to two man, but I do, and price accordingly.

This isn't intended to start a war on appropriate pricing, but here is what I charge, to incentivize two man, and minimum of two games:

Two umpires, two (or more) games = $168 ($42/umpire/game, base rate)
Two umpires, one game = $126 (150% each for single)
One umpire, two games = $126 (150% each game for solo)
One umpire, one game = $84 (200% of base rate)

I am in a market with competing umpire associations on every side of my "territory", I am at the top of the competing scale, but have never lost a customer on pricing (15+ years running my own show).

Very few rec leagues have opted for one umpire with this pricing structure after 8U coach pitch (one league I service does one for 10U, none at 12 and older). I know of zero tournaments in Georgia by any association that use one umpire; I do get an occasional request for one for "practice/scrimmage" games by travel teams.

I also make sure anyone considering one umpire understands that they may be getting the less experienced umpire that should be learning and gaining more experience from the more senior partner that night .......
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