The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Sat Apr 27, 2013, 09:18am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 14,565
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manny A View Post
FWIW, both ASA and NFHS state in their respective rule books that a play at first base is a force. Where? It's in the Double-First rule (8-2-M in ASA, and 8-10 in NFHS).

Under 8-2-M-4 in the ASA book, it says, "On any force out attempt from the foul side of first base, the defense and the batter-runner may use either..." The exact same wording is in 8-10-2a in Fed

Fed also mentions in 8-10-1, Penalty 2, "The batter-runner is out for interference when there is a force play and the batter-runner touches only the white portion..." And in Penalty 3, it says, "Obstruction is called on the defense when there is a force play on the batter-runner..."

So while both ASA and NFHS define Force as only being applied to other runners, they recognize that a play on the BR at first is essentially a force play. They may not have intended to do that, but it's in their books.
Unfortunately, it is the dummying down of the rules for people to understand and it is easier than typing "has yet to reach first base safely" multiple times. It is much like the second sentence of RS #36B is blatantly inaccurate, but ASA insists on keeping it there as they believe the coach and players will understand better.

IOW, they do not believe the some people have the reading skills to comprehend the written rule & interpretation. Problem is, along with the coaches and players, less experienced umpires take it as a rule and misapply it during the game. Sort of like in SP, some umpires dummy down their verbiage and signals to the player's level with calls like "deep", "flat", "high", etc.
__________________
The bat issue in softball is as much about liability, insurance and litigation as it is about competition, inflated egos and softball.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
DK3/Abandonment? DBrady Softball 3 Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:13pm
Abandonment 7.08(a) Larry1953 Baseball 12 Wed Sep 14, 2011 08:54am
Abandonment??? David M Baseball 39 Mon Aug 03, 2009 07:01pm
Abandonment LDUB Baseball 3 Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:59am
End of Game Abandonment TBBlue Baseball 14 Fri Jun 04, 2004 02:26pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:42am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1