Does the Run Count?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Steve M

AND, if there is no definitive Fed position - use the national governing body's position on this.

But this is a case where they differ, ASA restricting fourth out precedence to a runner who scored. Unlike the result of the case play 9.1.1 SITUATION P above which shows NFHS allows any runner to be the fourth out.

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[Steve M]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

But this is a case where they differ, ASA restricting fourth out precedence to a runner who scored. Unlike the result of the case play 9.1.1 SITUATION P above which shows NFHS allows any runner to be the fourth out.

Then, in a Fed game, you go with the Fed position.

[UmpireErnie]

Sadly we have no NCAA ball here in The Last Frontier. I was unaware of the language in NCAA about considering the force "at the time of the infraction".

Since that language is absent from NFHS rules, I can only go with the rules as written. 9-1-1-c says negate the run if the inning ending out is a force. But 2-24-4 (Definition of Force) says that the force is removed at the time the trailing runner is put out. So to call this appeal a force without the language present in the NCAA book would be to read something in that isn't in the rule.