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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 11:40am
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It is my understanding that this is not the umpire's purview ... not even close.
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 11:49am
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It is my understanding that this is not the umpire's purview ... not even close.
I guess we'll have to A2D.

I think umpires and other sports officials have a fundamental responsibility to prevent things from escalating on the field. Until I see something official from the powers-that-be that says we ignore non-game personnel from doing things that could cause problems, I believe we should nip this in the bud.
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 11:56am
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I guess we'll have to A2D.
Fair enough, although I'd suggest asking your assignor. Considering you also work college games, I'd think you'd have a better understanding that things occurring outside the fence are generally best handled by someone else entirely. I don't mean this disparagingly, but I honestly can't even begin to imagine a fellow umpire deciding to try to enforce something like this in a high school game. I'd be completely shocked to see a partner doing such a thing.

Take it a step further... given that this part of the rulebook has nothing to do with the actual game... what do you do if the HC will not go talk to the PA announcer (again ... not HIS job either)... or what if he does and the PA guy refuses. What penalty are you going to invoke?
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Old Thu Apr 11, 2013, 09:50am
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Fair enough, although I'd suggest asking your assignor. Considering you also work college games, I'd think you'd have a better understanding that things occurring outside the fence are generally best handled by someone else entirely. I don't mean this disparagingly, but I honestly can't even begin to imagine a fellow umpire deciding to try to enforce something like this in a high school game. I'd be completely shocked to see a partner doing such a thing.

Take it a step further... given that this part of the rulebook has nothing to do with the actual game... what do you do if the HC will not go talk to the PA announcer (again ... not HIS job either)... or what if he does and the PA guy refuses. What penalty are you going to invoke?
If I gave the impression that I would take aggressive action about this, forgive me. I would stop at advising the head coach that the music could cause problems. If he/she does something about it, great. If he/she does nothing, I'm not going to invoke any kinds of penalties. What I would do, however, is inform my association after the game for them to take appropriate action, if any.

I just feel that if I completely ignore it, it could come back and bite me.
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 11:58am
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It is absurd for the umpire to open his mouth on the field. Just because he finds it offensive, doesn't mean anyone else may.

If he wants to write up a report to the school/league/conference/AIA, fine, do that. But that is the extent of it and I really don't care what the song or lyrics were, it is none of his business.
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 12:13pm
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it is absurd for the umpire to open his mouth on the field. Just because he finds it offensive, doesn't mean anyone else may.

If he wants to write up a report to the school/league/conference/aia, fine, do that. But that is the extent of it and i really don't care what the song or lyrics were, it is none of his business.
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 01:12pm
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Just eject the PA Announcer for the music faux pax...

Umpire Ejects Daytona Cubs Music Man Derek Dye - YouTube
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 02:03pm
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If he wants to write up a report to the school/league/conference/AIA, fine, do that. But that is the extent of it and I really don't care what the song or lyrics were, it is none of his business.

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I would think writing a report for actions like this is the only way to handle it...

I haven't been able to view the video, so I haven't seen exactly what happened, but based on the comments, I can guess.
I say this despite the fact that I do seem to remember hearing about an organ player (or music button pusher) that once got thrown out of an MLB game for playing 3 Blind mice...
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