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Old Mon Mar 25, 2013, 09:56pm
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Batter hit by pitch while in front of box
Please cite rule and call for all rule sets. Forgive me, I know this has been posted here before but can't find it.

Batter hit with pitch in box. Dead ball - award first base. (ball does not belong in batters box, onus is on pitcher to not pitch it there.)

Batter hit with pitch while out of batter's box. Ruling?

Batter hit with pitch while in front of batter's box. I thought it was onus on batter, since she's now "closer to pitcher" and not where she's supposed to be. Dead ball, ball.

Can someone clarify? All rule sets please. (ASA, PONY, USSSA, NFHS, NCAA).
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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 06:05am
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Batter hit with pitch while out of batter's box. Ruling?

Batter hit with pitch while in front of batter's box.
I think more information is required. When and/or how did she get out of the batter's box?
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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 06:29am
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Okay. Left handed slap hitter. She was running up to hit pitch.
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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 07:09am
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Aaahhhhhhhh....how I long for the good old days when this wasn't a such a complicated call
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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 07:48am
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NCAA = No Pitch
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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 07:48am
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Aaahhhhhhhh....how I long for the good old days when this wasn't a such a complicated call
Me too. Dead ball, batter awarded first base in ASA?
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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 07:49am
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NCAA = No Pitch
Yes. I found it. Thanks! (NCAA 11.16.3.4)
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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:14am
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Okay. Left handed slap hitter. She was running up to hit pitch.
NCAA - No Pitch
ASA/FED - HBP unless the umpire feels she got hit on purpose or didn't try to avoid the pitch. But 99% of the time, HBP.
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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:34am
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NCAA - No Pitch
ASA/FED - HBP unless the umpire feels she got hit on purpose or didn't try to avoid the pitch. But 99% of the time, HBP.
Unless preventing the ball from enteringthe strike zone?
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Unless preventing the ball from enteringthe strike zone?
Still HBP; just a different result (dead ball strike).
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Still HBP; just a different result (dead ball strike).
Always good to have you confirm.
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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:01pm
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FED - or didn't try to avoid the pitch.
Fed - they no longer have to avoid being HBP as of this season.
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Fed - they no longer have to avoid being HBP as of this season.
The scenario involved a slap hitter who got hit when she was outside the batter's box. I don't believe what you said applies in that scenario, which is what Mike was addressing.
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Fed - they no longer have to avoid being HBP as of this season.
Yes, we know... except in the situation posted.
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The scenario involved a slap hitter who got hit when she was outside the batter's box. I don't believe what you said applies in that scenario, which is what Mike was addressing.
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Yes, we know... except in the situation posted.
Agreed
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