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LIUmp Mon Mar 25, 2013 09:56pm

Batter hit by pitch while in front of box
 
Please cite rule and call for all rule sets. Forgive me, I know this has been posted here before but can't find it.

Batter hit with pitch in box. Dead ball - award first base. (ball does not belong in batters box, onus is on pitcher to not pitch it there.)

Batter hit with pitch while out of batter's box. Ruling?

Batter hit with pitch while in front of batter's box. I thought it was onus on batter, since she's now "closer to pitcher" and not where she's supposed to be. Dead ball, ball.

Can someone clarify? All rule sets please. (ASA, PONY, USSSA, NFHS, NCAA).

DeputyUICHousto Tue Mar 26, 2013 06:05am

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Originally Posted by LIUmp (Post 886798)
Batter hit with pitch while out of batter's box. Ruling?

Batter hit with pitch while in front of batter's box.

I think more information is required. When and/or how did she get out of the batter's box?

LIUmp Tue Mar 26, 2013 06:29am

Okay. Left handed slap hitter. She was running up to hit pitch.

IRISHMAFIA Tue Mar 26, 2013 07:09am

Aaahhhhhhhh....how I long for the good old days when this wasn't a such a complicated call :(

topper Tue Mar 26, 2013 07:48am

NCAA = No Pitch

LIUmp Tue Mar 26, 2013 07:48am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 886866)
Aaahhhhhhhh....how I long for the good old days when this wasn't a such a complicated call :(

Me too. Dead ball, batter awarded first base in ASA?

LIUmp Tue Mar 26, 2013 07:49am

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Originally Posted by topper (Post 886878)
NCAA = No Pitch

Yes. I found it. Thanks! (NCAA 11.16.3.4)

MD Longhorn Tue Mar 26, 2013 08:14am

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Originally Posted by LIUmp (Post 886862)
Okay. Left handed slap hitter. She was running up to hit pitch.

NCAA - No Pitch
ASA/FED - HBP unless the umpire feels she got hit on purpose or didn't try to avoid the pitch. But 99% of the time, HBP.

CecilOne Tue Mar 26, 2013 09:34am

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 886884)
NCAA - No Pitch
ASA/FED - HBP unless the umpire feels she got hit on purpose or didn't try to avoid the pitch. But 99% of the time, HBP.

Unless preventing the ball from enteringthe strike zone?

AtlUmpSteve Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:08am

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Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 886895)
Unless preventing the ball from enteringthe strike zone?

Still HBP; just a different result (dead ball strike).

CecilOne Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:19am

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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve (Post 886901)
Still HBP; just a different result (dead ball strike).

Always good to have you confirm.

Insane Blue Tue Mar 26, 2013 03:01pm

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 886884)
FED - or didn't try to avoid the pitch.

Fed - they no longer have to avoid being HBP as of this season.

Manny A Tue Mar 26, 2013 03:16pm

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Originally Posted by Insane Blue (Post 886966)
Fed - they no longer have to avoid being HBP as of this season.

The scenario involved a slap hitter who got hit when she was outside the batter's box. I don't believe what you said applies in that scenario, which is what Mike was addressing.

MD Longhorn Tue Mar 26, 2013 03:19pm

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Originally Posted by Insane Blue (Post 886966)
Fed - they no longer have to avoid being HBP as of this season.

Yes, we know... except in the situation posted.

Insane Blue Tue Mar 26, 2013 03:34pm

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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 886967)
The scenario involved a slap hitter who got hit when she was outside the batter's box. I don't believe what you said applies in that scenario, which is what Mike was addressing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 886968)
Yes, we know... except in the situation posted.

Agreed


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