The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Tue Sep 04, 2012, 11:16am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Glendale, AZ
Posts: 2,672
National Tournament Weekend

We have just concluded a very busy national tournament weekend - any reports?

I was the umpire coordinator for the Women's C and D Slow Pitch Western Nationals this past weekend.

My first exposure at the NT level with a slow pitch event, so I really had to brush up on my SP rules and mechanics. Most SP around here is done with a single umpire, so 2 umpire mechanics were something I had to study up on.

My UIC asked me to help him as well with umpire evaluations and other duties so I was quite busy. We had four local area umpires that were at their first national tournament, so that was a bit of a challenge as well.

Overall, tournament went well, no major controversies on the field and all of the umpires grew during the tournament.

I always said that I never wanted the job of umpire coordinator due to all of the work involved, but I had a great experience and would do it again.
__________________
It's what you learn after you think you know it all that's important!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue Sep 04, 2012, 02:46pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Desoto, TX
Posts: 254
I UCed my 1st National this year as well, and my experience was very similar to yours. One really doesn't know the time involved prior to the tournament, along with the time involved during actual play. For 5 days I was on location from 1st pitch, to final pitch and had a great time (along with regular UC duties, my duties also included, line-up card approval, coin flips and assisting the UIC with evaluations.) The only negative was that the TD decided to follow 'code' and not compensate the UC.

But I would do it again as well.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Wed Sep 05, 2012, 10:57am
Stirrer of the Pot
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Lowcountry, SC
Posts: 2,380
Quote:
Originally Posted by okla21fan View Post
The only negative was that the TD decided to follow 'code' and not compensate the UC.
Just out of curiosity, who does get compensated during tournament play besides the umpires? Do the TDs? How about other "admin" type folks who do things like maintain the brackets and schedules, operate the scoreboards, etc.

Yeah, I'm sure being a UC is painful. But if nobody else involved in running the tournament gets compensated, it wouldn't be right for the UC to get something, would it?

Don't get me wrong; I'm certainly not against the UC receiving something for his/her services. It's simply a matter of fairness and equitability, in my mind.
__________________
"Let's face it. Umpiring is not an easy or happy way to make a living. In the abuse they suffer, and the pay they get for it, you see an imbalance that can only be explained by their need to stay close to a game they can't resist." -- Bob Uecker
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Wed Sep 05, 2012, 12:05pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Twin Cities MN
Posts: 8,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manny A View Post
Just out of curiosity, who does get compensated during tournament play besides the umpires? Do the TDs? How about other "admin" type folks who do things like maintain the brackets and schedules, operate the scoreboards, etc...
I would imagine it depends on the tournament. Here, it is not uncommon for the field prep teams to get paid (easier to get crews, who do a better job - typically high school age kids - than trying to round up volunteers). I don't know about TD's etc., but most (all?) of these tournaments are making money for somebody!

If the money is made by the local softball association, and people want to volunteer their time to help said local association, great. But volunteering should be (ahem) voluntary.

Umpiring is a professional skill, so paying for it seems reasonable to me. If a tournament wants to try going with volunteer UICs (or even volunteer umpires), nothing is stopping them. But, make no mistake, the money saved will be going to somebody.
__________________
Tom
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Wed Sep 05, 2012, 01:16pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 37
The UIC gets paid the most, the Assistant UIC gets the 2nd most, I want to say it's about half of the UIC compensation and the UC job is almost always a volunteer position.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Wed Sep 05, 2012, 02:02pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Glendale, AZ
Posts: 2,672
I was paid for my services as the UC, but only because our local association has a policy that the UC will be paid for any National Tournaments hosted by our association. It's just another cost of running the tournament

Wasn't much...worked out to about a dollar an hour for all of the time I spent before and during the tournament.

By ASA code, the UIC and the ASA rep are paid a defined amount. The code also requires official scorekeeepers, but does not say they must be paid. I have worked as a scorekeeper at a National Tournament twice and was paid for one and volunteered for the other. Our scorekeepers this past weekend were volunteers.

Some National Tournaments are run by a City Parks and Rec department. In that case, I tournament may not make money, but the city sees an increase in sales tax revenue from the hotel rooms, restaurants, stores, etc., which more than makes up for the cost of the tournament.
__________________
It's what you learn after you think you know it all that's important!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What do you take to a National? DaveASA/FED Softball 39 Mon Aug 05, 2013 09:03am
Youth Tournament this past weekend CMHCoachNRef Soccer 1 Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:58am
Tournament this weekend... NDblue Softball 23 Tue Jun 30, 2009 07:46am
2006 ASA National Tournament buddha69 Softball 22 Mon Jul 03, 2006 05:24am
ASA coed tournament this weekend. BuggBob Softball 2 Mon Jul 18, 2005 02:47pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:01pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1