Taking the signal

[DaveASA/FED]

Originally Posted by ronald

no they do not but the almost all umpires at the gold were college umps too. i was the only one who was probably not. i did not talk to all of em but to the ones i did, they did college ball.

You weren't the only one that doesn't do college out there. I know of at least two others that do not umpire college ball that were there!

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by DaveASA/FED

You weren't the only one that doesn't do college out there. I know of at least two others that do not umpire college ball that were there!

I'm trying to figure out the relevance of whether the umpire works college ball or not.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I'm trying to figure out the relevance of whether the umpire works college ball or not.

ditto

[DaveASA/FED]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I'm trying to figure out the relevance of whether the umpire works college ball or not.

As am I....just was clarifying that not all the umpires there umpired college there were a couple ASA/FED guys hiding there!

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I'm trying to figure out the relevance of whether the umpire works college ball or not.

There was a statement made about "holding zones." As was relayed by the staff, when all three umpires are "in" (meaning no umpire chased), there "is no holding zone" (the quotes here reflect an actual quote). Therefore, (as not demonstrated in the video) with no runners on or a runner on first: on a base hit, the PU trails the BR, then should take a position at third. No holding zone, just calling position.

NCAA mechanics allow the PU to utilize the holding zone in front of the circle for the same play.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

There was a statement made about "holding zones." As was relayed by the staff, when all three umpires are "in" (meaning no umpire chased), there "is no holding zone" (the quotes here reflect an actual quote). Therefore, (as not demonstrated in the video) with no runners on or a runner on first: on a base hit, the PU trails the BR, then should take a position at third. No holding zone, just calling position.

NCAA mechanics allow the PU to utilize the holding zone in front of the circle for the same play.

What about the "route" getting there, through the RHB or left of catcher?

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

What about the "route" getting there, through the RHB or left of catcher?

That's also an "NCAA thing" as it doesn't matter. I can assure you this plate umpire is getting on with age and has lost a step or two (but can cut quite the rug under the right circumstances). ASA's clarified position is not through any particular batter's box, just to the left of the catcher. If the catcher moves up the line, you could go through the RHBB.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

That's also an "NCAA thing" as it doesn't matter. I can assure you this plate umpire is getting on with age and has lost a step or two (but can cut quite the rug under the right circumstances). ASA's clarified position is not through any particular batter's box, just to the left of the catcher. If the catcher moves up the line, you could go through the RHBB.

Well, to me, the RHBB is just a matter of some lines in the dirt and is more of an issue in SP than fast. I think the key is to avoid getting caught up with the catcher, or as a snappy rug-cutter, the batter-runner leaving the plate area.

[MD Longhorn]

What am I missing ... the RHBB IS to the left of the catcher...

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Well, to me, the RHBB is just a matter of some lines in the dirt and is more of an issue in SP than fast. I think the key is to avoid getting caught up with the catcher, or as a snappy rug-cutter, the batter-runner leaving the plate area.

To me, the only distinction is that a lot of clinicians (yep, me included) urge umpires to go to the left around the RHBB; NOT because you might interfere with the catcher, but because batters often dig enough out of the batters' box to leave a hole where the PU can turn an ankle.

[ronald]

Good not to be the lone wolf