Pants

[Steve M]

The best pants I've found - navy or heather gray - are from Honigs.
I used to say that about the Fecheimer navy and the Cliff Keen grays, then I tried Honig. No contest. Now I get all my umpire pants from Honigs.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Steve M

The best pants I've found - navy or heather gray - are from Honigs.
I used to say that about the Fecheimer navy and the Cliff Keen grays, then I tried Honig. No contest. Now I get all my umpire pants from Honigs.

I have a pair of Honigs. The Susan G Komen group thanked me for wearing them last week.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I have a pair of Honigs. The Susan G Komen group thanked me for wearing them last week.

I have a pair of ASA-approved Fechs that would also work in this application... I think it has more to do with the "heather gray" color than it does with the manufacturer. I'd like to try the darker gray baseball uses these days, but NOOOO, we can't be copying those guys!

My biggest gripe about the Fechs is the waistband and clasp. They are not up to the use. Compared with CK, the waistband does not hold the shirt in nearly as well, rolls far too easily when you go set, and the single clasp fails more easily (i.e. pulls out of the fabric).

Honigs has a good rep, but I have not bought any of their pants since I bought my very first pair of umpire pants years ago, and the ones I bought were their "budget" line.

[MD Longhorn]

1. Honigs
2. ASA
3. Believe it or not, JCPenneys.

[Dutch Alex]

Originally Posted by Steve M

The best pants I've found - navy or heather gray - are from Honigs.
I used to say that about the Fecheimer navy and the Cliff Keen grays, then I tried Honig. No contest. Now I get all my umpire pants from Honigs.

I have 2 plate's and 2 pair for the bases from Honig's. Since they are the best supplier in Europe! If I wasn't allowed to use my Honig's-stuff, I think I would be almost naked behind the plate! Cap's, mask, pants, base- and plate-shoes, ball-bags (in same color as my pants!), a big bag, compressionpants, socks and for rugby a whistle. Always exactly what I wanted from them, for the right price and on time delivered in Europe! I can even pay in euro's at their site.
On top, the ESF (European Sftball Federation) want us to buy out top shirts, caps and jacked at Honig's-Europe!!!

[umpirebob71]

If you're buying the ASA Fechs, buy them big. They usually run a couple of sizes small.

[ronald]

Does Honigs' pants meet asa championship criteria?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by ronald

Does Honigs' pants meet asa championship criteria?

No

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by ronald

Does Honigs' pants meet asa championship criteria?

ASA is not a concern in my ASA district because nobody in district 4 in Pa goes to a real national. The local district commissioner has complete control of who goes where from his district.
So, I cannot speak to whether they meet ASA requirements for championship play.
They are fine for NCAA ball..

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by Dutch Alex

I have 2 plate's and 2 pair for the bases from Honig's. Since they are the best supplier in Europe! If I wasn't allowed to use my Honig's-stuff, I think I would be almost naked behind the plate! Cap's, mask, pants, base- and plate-shoes, ball-bags (in same color as my pants!), a big bag, compressionpants, socks and for rugby a whistle. Always exactly what I wanted from them, for the right price and on time delivered in Europe! I can even pay in euro's at their site.
On top, the ESF (European Sftball Federation) want us to buy out top shirts, caps and jacked at Honig's-Europe!!!

Alex, they may be the best; can't argue the point.

That said, whenever an association (or NCAA coordinator) "want" you to buy from a specific supplier, you can bet they are getting a kickback (commission).

[Dutch Alex]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Alex, they may be the best; can't argue the point.

That said, whenever an association (or NCAA coordinator) "want" you to buy from a specific supplier, you can bet they are getting a kickback (commission).

True but sad, 'cause the individual umpire who's forced to buy something he doesn't really want doesn't see anything from that commission. Again an example of an one-way street top>down.

If I look up, I only see a$$holes. However if they look down, the only thing they see it $hit. The very same they spread over me...

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Alex, they may be the best; can't argue the point.

That said, whenever an association (or NCAA coordinator) "want" you to buy from a specific supplier, you can bet they are getting a kickback (commission).

ASA & Fechheimer, anyone?

OK, I realize they have a legitimate issue with the look of the official uniform at their national events. I even agree with that.

But, they could specify style (e.g. their love affair with western cut non-functional pockets - maybe we should also use the cowboy thumb hook stance, too), and color (use an official color chart definition of "heather gray" if they must), and allow suppliers to provide uniforms that meet the requirements.

The color part of it is a joke, though, since heather gray only remains the "same" color for a day or so in the sun.