NCAA lineup

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

RKBump: You have to report position changes?

MNBlue: If I put "Cassie Smith" instead of "Cassandra Smith" on the lineup it's a violation?

Is the softball world that nuts?

And folks wonder why I "ignore" the issues on the SB side of our league.

Actually, she put Boomer instead of Jessica.

NCAA requires defensive position changes to be reported.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

NCAA requires defensive position changes to be reported.

Considering that the actual spots on the field played by the various positions (other than pitcher and catcher) are not defined - how in the world could this be enforced? What's the penalty? What if I move my CF into the infield (or my 2B out to the outfield) and use an unorthodox lineup for a batter for whatever reason?

Blue: Coach - you switched your 2B and SS without telling me.
Coach: That's where we put our SS - on the right side of the bag.

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Considering that the actual spots on the field played by the various positions (other than pitcher and catcher) are not defined - how in the world could this be enforced? What's the penalty? What if I move my CF into the infield (or my 2B out to the outfield) and use an unorthodox lineup for a batter for whatever reason?

Blue: Coach - you switched your 2B and SS without telling me.
Coach: That's where we put our SS - on the right side of the bag.

There is a small amount of common sense associate with the rule:

8-1-2 A defensive player is entitled to change to a different defensive position at any time. The plate umpire shall report the change to the official scorer, team scorekeepers, and to the opposing coaches and scorekeepers, before the next pitch.

EFFECT—Failure to report defensive changes renders the player unreported. (See Rule 8-3-3.)

A.R. 8-1-2: If the second baseman is located closer to first base than the first baseman who is playing in and away from the foul line for a slapper, they are not considered to have exchanged defensive positions. However, if the catcher and first baseman exchange positions, they are considered to be unreported substitutes if the umpire is not notified.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

There is a small amount of common sense associate with the rule:

Like I said, I get the catcher (especially since the CR rule requires that you know who that is). Any other positional anomalies seem entirely unenforceable to me, given the lack of a definition of those positions. Every other rule relies on definitions to form it's backbone. There simply is no definition of 7 of the positions.

[topper]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Like I said, I get the catcher (especially since the CR rule requires that you know who that is). Any other positional anomalies seem entirely unenforceable to me, given the lack of a definition of those positions. Every other rule relies on definitions to form it's backbone. There simply is no definition of 7 of the positions.

CR? In college softball? I must have missed the memo.

The rest of your point is now invalid.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by topper

CR? In college softball? I must have missed the memo.

The rest of your point is now invalid.

Meep.

[topper]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Meep.

Sorry, but I haven't the slightest idea what "Meep" is. Someone please enlighten me.

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

What if I move my CF into the infield (or my 2B out to the outfield) and use an unorthodox lineup for a batter for whatever reason?

That's addressed by Rule 6.5.4. "A player should not be considered to have changed defensive positions if she does not exchange her fielding position with another player but only temporarily stations herself at a different location on the field (for example, a fourth outfielder or fifth infielder)."

[txtrooper]

It does not say legal first name within the rule, just first name; that could be the name you choose to use as your first name I suppose. The rule does allow for the first name to be omitted in written lineup as long as they are printed on the cards roster without penalty.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by txtrooper

It does not say legal first name within the rule, just first name; that could be the name you choose to use as your first name I suppose. The rule does allow for the first name to be omitted in written lineup as long as they are printed on the cards roster without penalty.

What's this? The ASA guy raising a common sense argument?

What is the purpose of listing names on a line-up card? It is to identify the individual. As long as the name listed is unique when associated with the last name and number, I don't see a problem.

[txtrooper]

Originally Posted by irishmafia

what's this? The asa guy raising a common sense argument?

What is the purpose of listing names on a line-up card? It is to identify the individual. As long as the name listed is unique when associated with the last name and number, i don't see a problem.

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