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Umpteenth Tue Feb 14, 2012 09:37am

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Originally Posted by xtreamump (Post 823597)
...Tell me what you would tell the "MILF"...

If you are more concerned about what you would say to a spectator than you are about properly calling a game, perhaps it is you who should re-consider your calling to the job of officiating.

There are just too many things that could occur while the umpire is moving a bat. First off, as has been stated, once the bat is discarded/dropped, it becomes part of the playing field. If the umpire moves the bat, the umpire has then altered the playing field, and unless this can be done consistently and repeatedly, without causing any difference to the game it should be avoided. If you move the bat for one team, you must move the bat for every team. And at some point in time, you will find yourself in a situation that requires you to devote your mind, eyes, ears and body to the play before you, and not be concernced whatsoever about a bat.

Officiating requires consistency in all situations and circumstances. This consistency includes application of rules and mechanics. If you cannot provide that consistency you should find another line of work.

MD Longhorn Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtreamump (Post 823597)
House keeping ? Tell me what you would tell the "MILF" in the 4th inning

WOW. This tells me everything I need to know about you.

Officiate the game - don't invent crap to appease people you shouldn't be paying attention to in the first place.

Skahtboi Tue Feb 14, 2012 01:19pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 823826)
WOW. This tells me everything I need to know about you.

Officiate the game - don't invent crap to appease people you shouldn't be paying attention to in the first place.

In other words, you didn't really want to read all of the tripe in this thread, correct?! :D

x-tremeump Tue Feb 14, 2012 02:07pm

xtreeamump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Umpteenth (Post 823779)
If you are more concerned about what you would say to a spectator than you are about properly calling a game, perhaps it is you who should re-consider your calling to the job of officiating.

There are just too many things that could occur while the umpire is moving a bat. First off, as has been stated, once the bat is discarded/dropped, it becomes part of the playing field. If the umpire moves the bat, the umpire has then altered the playing field, and unless this can be done consistently and repeatedly, without causing any difference to the game it should be avoided. If you move the bat for one team, you must move the bat for every team. And at some point in time, you will find yourself in a situation that requires you to devote your mind, eyes, ears and body to the play before you, and not be concernced whatsoever about a bat.

Officiating requires consistency in all situations and circumstances. This consistency includes application of rules and mechanics. If you cannot provide that consistency you should find another line of work.

First, Officiating to me is not work. It is a privlage, I have been taught to Officiate in a way when the game is over I have a sence of self worth. Only being on this Forum for 10 days now I can see that there are 2 bullies on here that I really want to Umpire a game with. I love the game, & the kids. When you lose touch with reality you become hard to deal with behind a Handle on a forum.

Welpe Tue Feb 14, 2012 03:04pm

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Originally Posted by xtreamump (Post 823922)
I have been taught to Officiate in a way when the game is over I have a sence [sic] of self worth.

What does this even mean? It's a throw away comment and I infer it to mean you want to take some kind of moral high ground by using it.

MD Longhorn Tue Feb 14, 2012 04:08pm

I can't tell if he's trying to say he uses officiating as a self-esteem exercise, or if he's implying that the rest of us (who are performing as per instructions from thousands of different instructors, clinics, books, etc) should label our performance as worthless.

I'm also puzzled by the idea that 7 pages worth of responses telling him he's wrong somehow equals the more vociferous of us being labelled as bullies. (And wondering if I'm one of the two! :) )

NCASAUmp Tue Feb 14, 2012 04:11pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 823991)
I can't tell if he's trying to say he uses officiating as a self-esteem exercise, or if he's implying that the rest of us (who are performing as per instructions from thousands of different instructors, clinics, books, etc) should label our performance as worthless.

I'm also puzzled by the idea that 7 pages worth of responses telling him he's wrong somehow equals the more vociferous of us being labelled as bullies. (And wondering if I'm one of the two! :) )

You're always a bully, mb. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X8evilzsW0

Andy Tue Feb 14, 2012 04:25pm

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Originally Posted by xtreamump (Post 823922)
....When you lose touch with reality you become hard to deal with behind a Handle on a forum.

Did anybody else catch the irony in this statement.....

Welpe Tue Feb 14, 2012 04:35pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 823991)
I'm also puzzled by the idea that 7 pages worth of responses telling him he's wrong somehow equals the more vociferous of us being labelled as bullies. (And wondering if I'm one of the two! :) )

Well bullying is wrong. Haven't you seen the latest anti-bullying campaigns?

3afan Tue Feb 14, 2012 04:54pm

(borderline) interesting reading ...

my take is ... if an ump wants to clear the bat and can do so and not miss anything else - so what? I've always been taught not to touch equipment and thats what I'll continue to do ... but if my partner in a game clears a bat I dont give a crap as long as he's doing everything else he should be doing. :cool:

Welpe Tue Feb 14, 2012 05:17pm

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Originally Posted by umpire12 (Post 824016)
try calling him blatanly stupid like you did me mb...it might become a bit clearer to you or at least,at the very least, make you appear to be a bully in front of your cronies

Not that I have a horse in this fight but he actually didn't call you that. What he wrote is not what you read.

And that's enough beating a dead dog...or something like that.

tcannizzo Tue Feb 14, 2012 06:21pm

[feed troll]
So what about the discarded catcher's mask?
Now the PU is carrying a mask in left hand, plus a bat and a helmet in right hand.
Hope you don't end up with a sell-safe call at the plate. :eek:
[/feed troll]

IRISHMAFIA Tue Feb 14, 2012 06:25pm

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Originally Posted by tcannizzo (Post 824030)
[feed troll]
So what about the discarded catcher's mask?
Now the PU is carrying a mask in left hand, plus a bat and a helmet in right hand.
Hope you don't end up with a sell-safe call at the plate. :eek:
[/feed troll]

Probably has a mask hook on his belt. :rolleyes:

tcannizzo Tue Feb 14, 2012 06:32pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 824031)
Probably has a mask hook on his belt. :rolleyes:

Well there's the solution!!!!!!
If you are going to wear one hook on your belt, why not three?

http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x..._CBR001863.jpg

JEL Tue Feb 14, 2012 06:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcannizzo (Post 824030)
[feed troll]
So what about the discarded catcher's mask?
Now the PU is carrying a mask in left hand, plus a bat and a helmet in right hand.
Hope you don't end up with a sell-safe call at the plate. :eek:
[/feed troll]

And just who is gonna fill that hole in the batters box that the poor runner must navigate through? Guess I'll bring my own rake.


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