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Interesting calls this weekend in tournament play. Thought I'd share and ask at same time. Because I do little league, I have to learn as I go in ASA. For 10U play
1. Situation 1: R1 at 2nd, Batter grounds to F6, F6 overthrows F3 over fence. Each player was awarded one base. Is this correct? LL is 2. 2. Situation 2: No runners, Batter grounds to F6, F6 underthrows F3, BR advances to 2nd, F3 overthrows F4, BR advanced to 3rd. Runner was told to go back to 2nd. Does the "runner may steal or advance" 1 base per pitch apply in this situation? Why was runner forced to stay at 2nd? 3. Situation 3: R1 at 2nd, Pitcher delivers and R1 steals to 3rd, F2 overthrows F5 and R1 is allowed to run home and score. Is this correct? 4. Crow Hopping. All umps say they see it but won't call it. I explained that at this level should be where they do call it because it helps train the girls for the next level where it's rarely called too. Seems all the umps around here do not want to call it from fear of being black balled or something. Would you call it? And I know many of you might think 10U tournament play shouldn't be allowed; I disagree. It's a great opportunity for talented kids to play at a higher level. Plus, most of these kids are 11 anyway! 
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Sun May 25, 2003, 06:35pm
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Tom,
I don't call ASA games. I only do little league; however, I do coach a traveling team too and most all 10U tournaments are ASA. These calls were all made by the umps working the games. Thanks for your reply!
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Sun May 25, 2003, 06:59pm
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sprivitor
Interesting calls this weekend in tournament play. Thought I'd share and ask at same time. Because I do little league, I have to learn as I go in ASA. For 10U play 1. Situation 1: R1 at 2nd, Batter grounds to F6, F6 overthrows F3 over fence. Each player was awarded one base. Is this correct? LL is 2. Q1: Two base from TOT. [As Tom stated] 2. Situation 2: No runners, Batter grounds to F6, F6 underthrows F3, BR advances to 2nd, F3 overthrows F4, BR advanced to 3rd. Runner was told to go back to 2nd. Does the "runner may steal or advance" 1 base per pitch apply in this situation? Why was runner forced to stay at 2nd? Q2: Runner should have been allowed to remain at 3rd. One base advance is for pitched ball. [agree with Tom] 3. Situation 3: R1 at 2nd, Pitcher delivers and R1 steals to 3rd, F2 overthrows F5 and R1 is allowed to run home and score. Is this correct? No, she must return to 3rd, however, she can be put out at HP. [agree with Tom] 4. Crow Hopping. All umps say they see it but won't call it. I explained that at this level should be where they do call it because it helps train the girls for the next level where it's rarely called too. Seems all the umps around here do not want to call it from fear of being black balled or something. Would you call it? As Tom stated, point it out to the coach in league play, but call it in championship play.> And I know many of you might think 10U tournament play shouldn't be allowed; I disagree. It's a great opportunity for talented kids to play at a higher level. Plus, most of these kids are 11 anyway! I think 10U's should play tournaments, however, as a coach you need to have a good gripe on the rules. During tournaments you will see umpires that will normally call all violations, as they should. Give me you physical address and I will send you a 2002 ASA Rule book. You can go on-line at several sites to get the 2003 changes. glen
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Sun May 25, 2003, 07:48pm
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however, as a coachyou need to have a good gripe on the rules. During tournaments
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I hadnt seen a 10u coach yet that didnt have a good gripe on the rules but must do not have a good GRIP of the rules Just joshing with ya Don
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Sun May 25, 2003, 08:39pm
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sprivitor:
Don't confuse "crow hop" with a "leap." While the penalty for both is the same (illegal pitch), they are two completely different beasts. A leap is what it says, pushing off and the pivot foot leaving the ground. A crow hop is where a pitcher leaps once, establishes a second point of impetus with the pivot foot and leaps again to deliver. I would be surprised to find many 10 year olds with the skills to do a true, and effective crow hop. Scott
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Sun May 25, 2003, 09:14pm
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What I see at the younger levels may not be a true crow hop as you are describing but a crow hop by defination where the pitcher will step up with her pivot foot and reestablishing her pivot in front of the plate then push off from there which is more likely what sprivitor is talking about JMO Don
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Sun May 25, 2003, 11:54pm
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