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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 07:31pm
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No argument with that. But I find it funny that they called it a Safety Grip under Rule 3 Equipment in the 2011 book, do not have the 2012 book yet, but looked at the new rule on line and would take it that they dropped the word "Safety" from the rule, also did the word Safety get dropped from the knob rule?

Yet they are clear that it must have a grip.

So what is the the purpose of the grip if you do not have use it when batting and why if it is not for safety?

Why not just a bare handle?
I see the point as requiring the bat be as safe as realisticly optimal. No one can stop the batter from then using it in a less-than-safe manner.

Requiring the batter to only hold the bat on the grip would make the vast majority of bunt attempts illegal.
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 08:07pm
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"But the batter has NEVER been required to keep their hands on the grip, so there is nothing new there."

I can just it heard it... batter is gripping the bat above the 6" grip on bat and loses control of it and throws it into the stands cracking someones head.
In court for the law suit... judge to person with cracked skull, please show how she was holding the bat... they show that she was holding it above the 6" grip. Judge says so she was not using it correctly... ASA person, No your honor she is not required by book the hold it by the grip.

Yes but a motorcycle ride is only in danger of busting their own skull by not wearing their helmet.
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 08:10pm
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I see the point as requiring the bat be as safe as realisticly optimal. No one can stop the batter from then using it in a less-than-safe manner.

Requiring the batter to only hold the bat on the grip would make the vast majority of bunt attempts illegal.
That would be a time when it would be OK to remove a hand from the grip.

You are not likely to hit someone by losing control of a bat while bunting.
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 08:33pm
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That would be a time when it would be OK to remove a hand from the grip.

You are not likely to hit someone by losing control of a bat while bunting.
Ever seen that whole '360 behind the back' slapper/bunt dealio?
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Old Sun Jan 29, 2012, 09:36pm
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Yes but a motorcycle ride is only in danger of busting their own skull by not wearing their helmet.
Which is irrelevant to my comment, but even if it were, using the helmet, or grip, does not preclude the possibilty the accident would not have happened if they were.
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Old Tue Jan 31, 2012, 04:29pm
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All other things aside...

What was their reasoning behind changing the grip from 10 to 15 inches to 6 to 15 inches?
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Old Tue Jan 31, 2012, 05:38pm
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All other things aside...

What was their reasoning behind changing the grip from 10 to 15 inches to 6 to 15 inches?
There was no comment given for the change, it was part of the redefinition of the "grip".
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Old Tue Jan 31, 2012, 08:44pm
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All other things aside...

What was their reasoning behind changing the grip from 10 to 15 inches to 6 to 15 inches?
Because the players have been trying to pass 6" off for 10" for years?









I'll just let that one sink in.
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Old Tue Jan 31, 2012, 11:30pm
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Because the players have been trying to pass 6" off for 10" for years?









I'll just let that one sink in.
And from what I understand, Dave uses this line a lot.......
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Old Wed Feb 01, 2012, 01:17am
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Knew my post would get some good replies.

I would like to know what they were drinking / smoking before they decide to make the change from 10 to 6.

You would think they had better rule changes to consider.
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Old Wed Feb 01, 2012, 09:30am
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And from what I understand, Dave uses this line a lot.......
DOH!
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2012, 12:30am
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There was no comment given for the change, it was part of the redefinition of the "grip".
Spoke with KR about this today in OKC, and he stated this was more of a slow pitch dealio and that there was a 'complaint' that SP players felt this was a waste of grip tape and 'expense'. (do SP players regrip their tape that much?... I have no clue)

but he also re-confirmed that the tape must 'begin at the knob' and that would be 're-inserted' in 2012 and was an over sight, and said this should come up in a future rules clarification on the website soon.
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