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Old Sun Apr 20, 2003, 02:03pm
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Under the Had To Be There rule my 1st impression was that the throw was up the line towards home and our "Collision" was actually an unavoidable wreck. This would also explain why the blue needed to be shown the ball because if she went down on top of the ball he may not have seen catch/no catch, in which case he should call safe or go to his partner for help because you should never guess an out. So Sprivitor, we believe that there could have been an out but make sure to add the HTBT aspect.

I saw a similar play on friday at a Big Ten game. R3 was stealing 2nd and the poor throw came in on the 3rd base side causing an obstructed view for the ump. He then "guessed" her out when everyone on the 3rd base side could see that the tag was waaaaaay late, I mean she was already getting to her feet when the tag was made. Why some blues feel that going to a partner for help is somehow questioning their abilities I'll never know. Jim
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