social media policy

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

That is certainly another of those "feel good" laws some knee jerk reactionary thought sounded like a good idea, and that can be easily circumnavigated by standard email, text, or the good old fashioned phone call.

I have often wondered, as a public educator myself, when we became so concerned with students and teachers being able to talk. We never seemed to, historically anyway, be concerned when our kids stayed after school for tutoring or made phone calls to teachers. Why do they think that social media is any more of a bugaboo?

Because we don't know what to teach our kids anymore these days.

We ask them to be respectful, but teach them to not trust authorities like teachers, principals and policemen.

We teach them to be afraid of strangers, but it's okay to let that TSA man touch you inside your pants in the interests of "national security."

We sterilize their world with Lysol and hand gels, but feed them crap with more preservatives than Lenin's body.

We tell them we want them to be good, hard workers and to dream big, but there are some parents out there who are actively working to abolish homework.

We want every kid to be doctors, lawyers, etc., but we tell them that their incorrect and mediocre schoolwork is "good enough."

We want every kid to be a winner, so we no longer keep score in an attempt to prevent kids from being "losers." And don't fool yourself, the kids are keeping score. We're teaching them to add. Sort of.

We teach them to learn about every other culture and religion in the world, but that one Christmas tree in front of a town hall is somehow going to be the ruin of the whole town (and I'm an atheist, by the way).

We no longer spank our children when they misbehave, and instead tell 2-year olds to sit in a corner for 5 minutes to "think about their actions."

We say we want our kids to be strong, but in reality, we teach them to be cowards.

When I grew up, you listened to your elders. You respected your neighbors and ran to their house if you were in trouble. You said "yes, sir" or "yes ma'am" to a policeman/policewoman, and if my parents got a phone call home from the teacher, guess what. I got a spanking.

I'm thankful for the way I was raised. I respect my bosses, I respect others around me, and it's done me a world of good.

We're raising a generation of effing sissies.

(I wanted to use another word, but I respect the language rules here)

[NCASAUmp]

Wow... Did I just nuke the conversation?

[Rachel]

Loved your post Dave.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Because we don't know what to teach our kids anymore these days.

I don't think that is true. IMO, it isn't that the parents don't know, it is that many don't want to. Just like getting them to wear face masks on batting helmets or on the field. As long as they can dump responsibility on someone else and maintain the "I'm your friend" facade.

We tell them we want them to be good, hard workers and to dream big, but there are some parents out there who are actively working to abolish homework.

We want every kid to be doctors, lawyers, etc., but we tell them that their incorrect and mediocre schoolwork is "good enough."

Even at the college level and that is depressing.

We want every kid to be a winner, so we no longer keep score in an attempt to prevent kids from being "losers." And don't fool yourself, the kids are keeping score. We're teaching them to add. Sort of.

And how do they handle failure or disappointment? Sometimes I have to wonder if that may not have an effect on youth and young adults who give up and turn to suicide as an alternative.

We teach them to learn about every other culture and religion in the world, but that one Christmas tree in front of a town hall is somehow going to be the ruin of the whole town (and I'm an atheist, by the way).

Here is that "perception" word again. The word "church" doesn't appear in the constitution and the word "religion" only appears once as it pertains to the government not establishing one and insuring the freedom to express one's belief.

We no longer spank our children when they misbehave, and instead tell 2-year olds to sit in a corner for 5 minutes to "think about their actions."

We say we want our kids to be strong, but in reality, we teach them to be cowards.

You are really working hard to get on my good side, aren't you

When I grew up, you listened to your elders. You respected your neighbors and ran to their house if you were in trouble. You said "yes, sir" or "yes ma'am" to a policeman/policewoman, and if my parents got a phone call home from the teacher, guess what. I got a spanking.

I'm thankful for the way I was raised. I respect my bosses, I respect others around me, and it's done me a world of good.

We're raising a generation of effing sissies.

(I wanted to use another word, but I respect the language rules here)

And it starts at the big building in DC and I'm not talking about the one across from Lafayette Square.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I don't think that is true. IMO, it isn't that the parents don't know, it is that many don't want to. Just like getting them to wear face masks on batting helmets or on the field. As long as they can dump responsibility on someone else and maintain the "I'm your friend" facade.

Ugh... Tell me about it. Don't get me wrong, I have a good relationship with my mother. However, she was a mother first and a friend second. If I got out of line, she made sure I knew it.

And I don't want to armchair quarterback parents too much, but when I see certain styles of parenting that trouble me as a former psych major, I have to speak up. Some kids are downright rotten. They expect everything to be handed to them, they never hear the word "no," and they are downright disrespectful towards adults. I used to work in a public school district, and seeing these kids drove me nuts. I had to quit.

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Even at the college level and that is depressing.

And when I worked at a local, unnamed university that belongs to the ACC, I saw the same thing. Kids don't know how to spell. Kids don't know college-level math.

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

And how do they handle failure or disappointment? Sometimes I have to wonder if that may not have an effect on youth and young adults who give up and turn to suicide as an alternative.

I don't know if I'd go that far (having had 3 friends or acquaintances who have committed suicide), but it does affect how resilient a person becomes later in life.

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Here is that "perception" word again. The word "church" doesn't appear in the constitution and the word "religion" only appears once as it pertains to the government not establishing one and insuring the freedom to express one's belief.

As an atheist, I couldn't care less about a town wanting to put up a Christmas tree. Doesn't bother me in the least. It's a nice time of year, and is a good reminder to call your mother and be nice to your neighbor. What's so damn harmful about that?

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

You are really working hard to get on my good side, aren't you

If that was my intent, I would've ranted against background checks. Thought about it...

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

And it starts at the big building in DC and I'm not talking about the one across from Lafayette Square.

Oprah moved to DC?

[outathm]

When I grew up, you listened to your elders. You respected your neighbors and ran to their house if you were in trouble. You said "yes, sir" or "yes ma'am" to a policeman/policewoman, and if my parents got a phone call home from the teacher, guess what. I got a spanking.

Earlier tonight I was telling my wife a story about a neighbor of mine that worked the LLWS, I kept referring to him as "Mr. ___ ". I realized that I did not actually know his first name. He was an adult and I addressed him as "Mr."

I do not remember the last time I heard that outside of a classroom, and even there it is getting rare.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by outathm

When I grew up, you listened to your elders. You respected your neighbors and ran to their house if you were in trouble. You said "yes, sir" or "yes ma'am" to a policeman/policewoman, and if my parents got a phone call home from the teacher, guess what. I got a spanking.

Earlier tonight I was telling my wife a story about a neighbor of mine that worked the LLWS, I kept referring to him as "Mr. ___ ". I realized that I did not actually know his first name. He was an adult and I addressed him as "Mr."

I do not remember the last time I heard that outside of a classroom, and even there it is getting rare.

The South has still maintained some semblance of respect for elders by referring to people as Mister or Miss + first name (ie., Mr. Dave or Miss Laura). I wish more kids were taught that way...

[JefferMC]

If this were Facebook, I definitely would have "liked" your posts, Dave & Mike.

[MD Longhorn]

Kind of funny, really, that we're sitting here on the Official Forum ... a social media site ... discussing whether it's right or wrong to post about the game, players, teams on a social media site like Facebook. Ironically, I've been told (especially when I did football in Dallas) that posting on the Official Forum is frowned upon by the higher ups. Guess they didn't want us newbies learning anything or comparing situations.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Kind of funny, really, that we're sitting here on the Official Forum ... a social media site ... discussing whether it's right or wrong to post about the game, players, teams on a social media site like Facebook. Ironically, I've been told (especially when I did football in Dallas) that posting on the Official Forum is frowned upon by the higher ups. Guess they didn't want us newbies learning anything or comparing situations.

I think some of that is the paranoia that officials will use these forums to speak poorly of the associations for which they call, disparaging the higher-ups "behind their back" with the water-cooler talk.

Frankly, I can't think of a better way for good information and ideas to get shared, disseminated and discussed en masse. Local umpiring associations typically require officials to attend less than a half dozen clinics at the beginning of the year in order to qualify for assignments. While that's a good start, it's even better to have a venue in which we can keep ourselves sharp by asking each other questions and have them available to everyone.

Sure, there will be the occasional incident in which someone speaks out of turn, but those incidents are the exception and not the norm. There is too much to be gained by having these forums than there is to be lost by an occasional bad apple.

[Dakota]

I can recall a few years ago when comments made on this board contributed to an umpire being drummed out of the corps of the local association. I only know what was commented on here about that, but there are those who have first hand knowledge that are still members of this forum.