The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball
Balk? Balk?
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
Page 1 of 3 1 23
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 12:55am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 872
Balk?
A gentleman I umpire with had a conversation with another umpire who said he just got back from umpiring an ASA National tournament and that he called a balk during the game.

My friend said, "You mean illegal pitch?" And the other one said, "No, balk."

I couldn't find anything in the ASA rulebook that says there are any balks in ASA. Or am I missing something?

Rita
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 02:03am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: In the Desert....
Posts: 826
no
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 06:59am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 26
Probably that guy's last national.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 07:07am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 14,565
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rita C View Post
A gentleman I umpire with had a conversation with another umpire who said he just got back from umpiring an ASA National tournament and that he called a balk during the game.

My friend said, "You mean illegal pitch?" And the other one said, "No, balk."

I couldn't find anything in the ASA rulebook that says there are any balks in ASA. Or am I missing something?

Rita
For the little ball guys. Isn't a balk a dead ball?
__________________
The bat issue in softball is as much about liability, insurance and litigation as it is about competition, inflated egos and softball.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 07:39am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Metro Atlanta
Posts: 870
Did he also say that he got sent home after that game?
__________________
Tony
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 08:40am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 121
Quote:
Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA View Post
For the little ball guys. Isn't a balk a dead ball?
IIRC, it is in FED. Not in MLB rules though; it's a delayed dead ball, although they don't call it that.
__________________
Patrick
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 09:48am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
Even though the primary definition of "balk" is
: a ridge of land left unplowed as a dividing line or through carelessness

There is a fifth definition of "balk" as
: failure of a player to complete a motion;
especially : an illegal motion of the pitcher in baseball while in position

So, a balk literally can be any failure of a player to complete a motion, including a checked swing, diving back to a base after attempting to advance, holding the ball afer a bluff or attempt to throw, etc., etc., etc. The "especially" clause above is not part of the essential definition.

__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 09:52am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 1,640
Quote:
Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA View Post
For the little ball guys. Isn't a balk a dead ball?
Only in the strange world of NFHS baseball.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 10:24am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 872
Fwiw
I thought it wasn't but I didn't know what "ASA National" was and I know some tournaments make up their own rules.

I received an reply from my softball assignor that said he was asked to go home early.

I don't understand why he would brag about the call then....



Rita
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 10:45am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: NC
Posts: 4,361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rita C View Post
I thought it wasn't but I didn't know what "ASA National" was and I know some tournaments make up their own rules.

I received an reply from my softball assignor that said he was asked to go home early.

I don't understand why he would brag about the call then....



Rita
ASA Nationals do make up their own rules - and they decide on them every November and print them plainly and clearly for everyone to read in a nice little book.

No exceptions.

What part of "Championship Play" did this guy not understand?
__________________
Dave

I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 11:54am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Metro Atlanta
Posts: 870
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rita C View Post
I thought it wasn't but I didn't know what "ASA National" was and I know some tournaments make up their own rules.

I received an reply from my softball assignor that said he was asked to go home early.

I don't understand why he would brag about the call then....



Rita
This is why I asked if he got sent home after that call.
Unfortunately, there are some umpires who make up their own rules.
__________________
Tony
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 12:10pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 937
What ASA National was it?
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 07:54pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 872
Quote:
Originally Posted by KJUmp View Post
What ASA National was it?
Not sure, and given how I've gotten in trouble posting on this website before (on the baseball board) I would be reluctant to give details.

This guy is one of the few I've ever asked not to work with. And I'm not the only one. It will be interesting to see if he comes back to our association next year.

Rita
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 07:55pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 872
Quote:
Originally Posted by NCASAUmp View Post
ASA Nationals do make up their own rules - and they decide on them every November and print them plainly and clearly for everyone to read in a nice little book.

No exceptions.

What part of "Championship Play" did this guy not understand?
LOL yep.

Rita
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 08:58pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: East Central, FL
Posts: 1,042
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rita C View Post
A gentleman I umpire with had a conversation with another umpire who said he just got back from umpiring an ASA National tournament and that he called a balk during the game.

My friend said, "You mean illegal pitch?" And the other one said, "No, balk."

I couldn't find anything in the ASA rulebook that says there are any balks in ASA. Or am I missing something?

Rita
Someone was BSing or completeley clueless...
Did he buy a piece of pie?
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 1 of 3 1 23

Bookmarks

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Balk/No Balk: LHP fients pickoff the 3rd base Mike6221 Baseball 4 Sun Jun 07, 2009 09:47pm
RHP in stretch facing 1st base (balk or no balk) tem_blue Baseball 6 Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:00pm
Stealing Home, P in Windup, Balk or No Balk? johnnyg08 Baseball 2 Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:12am
To Balk Or Not To Balk, That Is The Question.. chuckfan1 Baseball 21 Wed Sep 03, 2003 03:21pm
Balk, Balk Yells the Coach!!! Gre144 Baseball 12 Tue Jul 10, 2001 07:32am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:36pm.

The Official Forum - Archive - Top


Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1