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Old Fri Aug 05, 2011, 09:22am
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No issues with heat in my national...Of course, San Diego never gets much over 80 degrees anyway!

Seriously....as Mike noted....water, water, water....I like to mix in a sports drink once in a while for some flavor, but water is the best.

I also find that keeping a towel in a cooler with ice is a refreshing wipe down between innings.

There are a couple of other things I have heard, but do not have personal experience with....one buddy of mine buys the individual powder packets of Pedialyte and mixes those in a water bottle...he says it's better than the sports drinks for electrolytes without as much sugar. I've also heard good things about the spirits of ammonia towels. I'm pretty sure we have discussed those here before.

Just remember that no matter where you live and work and how used to the heat you are, it can still affect anybody. The players and coaches get to sit in the shaded dugout for half the game, the blues don't have that option. Be careful out there and take care of yourself and your crews.
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Old Fri Aug 05, 2011, 01:53pm
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Water is not enough for hydration.
Drink water, water, water before and during the game.
After the game have Gatorade for the electrolytes.

Slight salt intake will reduce the amount of perspiration, but be careful not to overdo it. Have a sandwich which help with energy which will also provide a good salt intake.

Elevate feet between games to get the blood out of there.
Then repeat drinking water, water, water...

It is also good to wash your face, hands and arms to cut the dried perspiration, you will feel refreshed. Even better, find a place to shower, if possible.

When on the bases, try to stand on the grass between innings. It will take a lot of heat off the soles of your shoes.

When behind the plate, take your mask off as much as possible. This will allow evaporation, even if it is only 10 seconds at a time; i.e. between batters and even between pitches.

Have some kind of ice towel. FrogToggs are OK, but even better when pulled out of a small cooler with ice water. This will help reduce body heat.

Also have an absorbent towel for head, neck and arms. Use it to wipe the inside of your hat, and the padding on your face mask.

And this is a tough one for a lot of us, but refrain from alcohol at the end of the day.

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Old Fri Aug 05, 2011, 01:58pm
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Discussion by umpires after 7 pm game at 12U

Derwil,

Was there any discussion after the 7 pm game on Lagoon field 1? Seems like everything that could happen in a game happened. Girl changing feel on bag got called out for leaving early, 2 offensive conferences in a inning, every play was a banger, etc. I'm sure the umpires on the field thought the game would never end. Been there, done that, and got a tee shirt.

By the way the umpires did a great job handing the 2 offensive conferences issue, but the coaches were very unhappy because there is not a penalty for a rule violation.
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Old Fri Aug 05, 2011, 05:54pm
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Derwil,

Was there any discussion after the 7 pm game on Lagoon field 1? Seems like everything that could happen in a game happened. Girl changing feel on bag got called out for leaving early, 2 offensive conferences in a inning, every play was a banger, etc. I'm sure the umpires on the field thought the game would never end. Been there, done that, and got a tee shirt.

By the way the umpires did a great job handing the 2 offensive conferences issue, but the coaches were very unhappy because there is not a penalty for a rule violation.
You mean the penalty (ejection) was not applied, right?
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Old Fri Aug 05, 2011, 08:22pm
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Another thing that works really well is to keep a small ice chest you can carry onto the field with a couple of towels in ice and water with spirits of ammonia in it. I have been using this in this Texas heat for years.
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Old Sat Aug 06, 2011, 01:03am
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Yes there was a discussion about that game, no I was not in it. So far as I can tell the coach insisted on a second conference but was not ejected. Dunno why.

Did I mention the heat sucks. About 10 umpires have at one time or another gone out of their games. One got hit in the head with a thrown ball and spent the night in the ER getting a CAT scan.
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Old Sat Aug 06, 2011, 09:33am
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One got hit in the head with a thrown ball and spent the night in the ER getting a CAT scan.
Gotta ask. Was he in the proper position or did the player just throw the ball somewhere she shouldn't have?
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Old Sun Aug 07, 2011, 08:39pm
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Gotta ask. Was he in the proper position or did the player just throw the ball somewhere she shouldn't have?
Wild throw. 1st baseman didn't realize they had 3 outs and tried to make a play at the plate. PU had taken his mask off and took a step towards his water @ 3rd base dugout. Catcher went to dugout, 1st base threw the ball hard trying to make a play. PU took his eyes off the ball, next thing he knows he was looking at the sky. CAT scan confirmed concussion, no more games @ tourney.
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Old Sat Aug 06, 2011, 11:08am
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You mean the penalty (ejection) was not applied, right?
Here is what happened:

While U1 was sweeping plate, offensive coach in dugout stepped out of the dugout and told the batter who was walking to the plate to hit the ball. U1 told the coach that that was his offensive conference for the inning. The 3rd base coach did not hear this. Later in the inning play was stopped so 3rd base coach started talking to the next batter while U1 was in the infield. When U1 turned around and saw the coach talking to the next batter he immediately told the coach that he could not talk to the batter since they had already used their offensive conference for the inning. The third base coach got mad because he did not know about the previous conference. The defensive coach ask if the batter is out since the offensive team had violated the second offensive conference rule. U1 told him no and told the girls to play ball. Defensive coach got mad and ask for the UIC to be called to the field. The UIC came to the field, but determined that U1 handle the issue correctly. Of course every play from that point on was a fuss.
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Old Sat Aug 06, 2011, 11:51am
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Here is what happened:

While U1 was sweeping plate, offensive coach in dugout stepped out of the dugout and told the batter who was walking to the plate to hit the ball. U1 told the coach that that was his offensive conference for the inning. The 3rd base coach did not hear this. Later in the inning play was stopped so 3rd base coach started talking to the next batter while U1 was in the infield. When U1 turned around and saw the coach talking to the next batter he immediately told the coach that he could not talk to the batter since they had already used their offensive conference for the inning. The third base coach got mad because he did not know about the previous conference. The defensive coach ask if the batter is out since the offensive team had violated the second offensive conference rule. U1 told him no and told the girls to play ball. Defensive coach got mad and ask for the UIC to be called to the field. The UIC came to the field, but determined that U1 handle the issue correctly. Of course every play from that point on was a fuss.
Well, you have a choice, not call the first one a conference which it doesn't sound like it is; or eject the coach for the 2nd conference. However, in no case is a player ruled out.
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Old Sat Aug 06, 2011, 04:37pm
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Well, you have a choice, not call the first one a conference which it doesn't sound like it is; or eject the coach for the 2nd conference. However, in no case is a player ruled out.
I agree.

I might nudge it along with a, "let's keep it moving, coach," but if it's just a couple of words to the next batter, I've got nothing.
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Old Sat Aug 06, 2011, 05:14pm
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How can it possibly be a conf if PU is dusting plate? Time is already out.
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Old Sat Aug 06, 2011, 12:11pm
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Here is what happened:

While U1 was sweeping plate, offensive coach in dugout stepped out of the dugout and told the batter who was walking to the plate to hit the ball. U1 told the coach that that was his offensive conference for the inning. The 3rd base coach did not hear this. Later in the inning play was stopped so 3rd base coach started talking to the next batter while U1 was in the infield. When U1 turned around and saw the coach talking to the next batter he immediately told the coach that he could not talk to the batter since they had already used their offensive conference for the inning. The third base coach got mad because he did not know about the previous conference. The defensive coach ask if the batter is out since the offensive team had violated the second offensive conference rule. U1 told him no and told the girls to play ball. Defensive coach got mad and ask for the UIC to be called to the field. The UIC came to the field, but determined that U1 handle the issue correctly. Of course every play from that point on was a fuss.
CHARGED CONFERENCE: When a team representative requests a suspension of play or delays the game for the purpose of delivering a message to another team member.

I'm failing to see how either of these was a conference.
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CHARGED CONFERENCE: When a team representative requests a suspension of play or delays the game for the purpose of delivering a message to another team member.

I'm failing to see how either of these was a conference.
I agree. From the description, it sounds like it might have been OOO.
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Here is what happened:

While U1 was sweeping plate, offensive coach in dugout stepped out of the dugout and told the batter who was walking to the plate to hit the ball. U1 told the coach that that was his offensive conference for the inning. The 3rd base coach did not hear this. Later in the inning play was stopped so 3rd base coach started talking to the next batter while U1 was in the infield. When U1 turned around and saw the coach talking to the next batter he immediately told the coach that he could not talk to the batter since they had already used their offensive conference for the inning. The third base coach got mad because he did not know about the previous conference. The defensive coach ask if the batter is out since the offensive team had violated the second offensive conference rule. U1 told him no and told the girls to play ball. Defensive coach got mad and ask for the UIC to be called to the field. The UIC came to the field, but determined that U1 handle the issue correctly. Of course every play from that point on was a fuss.
I guess you are using "U1" to represent the plate umpire? Typically, U1 is the 1B umpire and U3 is the 3B umpire.
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