8-2-e Runners lane interference

[rbmartin]

I'm sorry but I'm only an OBR Baseball Umpire. I only have access to OBR baseball rules. Could someone please quote for me in it's entirety the rule concerning Runners Lane Interference (I think it's 8-2-e) (FED HS Girls Fastpitch). Thanks. I couldn't find an online link.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

I'm sorry but I'm only an OBR Baseball Umpire. I only have access to OBR baseball rules. Could someone please quote for me in it's entirety the rule concerning Runners Lane Interference (I think it's 8-2-e) (FED HS Girls Fastpitch). Thanks. I couldn't find an online link.

Odd, unless Fed just happens to match perfectly with ASA on this one rule, or the 8-2-E you seek is actually the ASA rule.

Is there a specific scenario that you have?

[rbmartin]

Sorry. You are correct. The number I listed was from an ASA website. I Simply need the FED rule for RLI.

[Az.Ump]

8.2
ART. 5 . . . She runs outside the three-foot (0.91m) lane and, in the judgment
of the umpire, interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base (there must be a throw); however, the batter-runner may run outside the three-foot (0.91m) lane to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball. A runner is considered outside the running lane if either foot is completely outside the lane and in contact with the ground.

Paul

[rbmartin]

Originally Posted by Az.Ump

8.2
ART. 5 . . . She runs outside the three-foot (0.91m) lane and, in the judgment
of the umpire, interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base (there must be a throw); however, the batter-runner may run outside the three-foot (0.91m) lane to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball. A runner is considered outside the running lane if either foot is completely outside the lane and in contact with the ground.

Paul

Thanks. Is the 3 foot wide lane described verbally somewhere in the rulebook(ie. the last half of the distance between home and first) or is it a dimensioned graphic?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

Thanks. Is the 3 foot wide lane described verbally somewhere in the rulebook(ie. the last half of the distance between home and first) or is it a dimensioned graphic?

Rule 2
SECTION 58 THREE-FOOT RUNNING LANE
The three-foot running lane is the space defined by a line drawn 3 feet from and parallel to the first base foul line starting halfway between home and first base and extending to first base in foul territory.

[rbmartin]

Thanks guys

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Az.Ump

8.2
ART. 5 . . . She runs outside the three-foot (0.91m) lane and, in the judgment
of the umpire, interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base (there must be a throw); however, the batter-runner may run outside the three-foot (0.91m) lane to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball. A runner is considered outside the running lane if either foot is completely outside the lane and in contact with the ground.

Paul

Wording as above is where these myths originate.

If a defender is fielding a batted ball anywhere, s/he cannot be in the act of taking a throw at 1st which is necessary for a 3' lane violation.

[Gulf Coast Blue]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Wording as above is where these myths originate.

If a defender is fielding a batted ball anywhere, s/he cannot be in the act of taking a throw at 1st which is necessary for a 3' lane violation.

And the fact that NFHS can have a lane violation on a Base on Balls.........

Frickin Fedlandia.........

Joel

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Blue

And the fact that NFHS can have a lane violation on a Base on Balls.........

Frickin Fedlandia.........

Joel

I'm just waiting for that one to happen. I haven't seen it yet, but I know when I do, the offensive coach is going to come UNGLUED...

[rbmartin]

Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Blue

And the fact that NFHS can have a lane violation on a Base on Balls.........

Frickin Fedlandia.........

Joel

Again, I apologize for being an OBR baseball guy asking softball questions but in what scenario could the above mentioned infraction (RLI on a BOB) potentially take place?

[rwest]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

Again, I apologize for being an OBR baseball guy asking softball questions but in what scenario could the above mentioned infraction (RLI on a BOB) potentially take place?

In FP Softball the ball is live when the batter becomes a batter-runner during a base on balls situation. Some teams will have their runners round 1st and go to second. This is normally done with a runner at third. If they throw to second to get the out, the runner from third advances home. Some teams will defend this by throwing down to first base. If the runner interferes with this throw while out of the running lane we have interference.

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by rwest

In FP Softball the ball is live when the batter becomes a batter-runner during a base on balls situation. Some teams will have their runners round 1st and go to second. This is normally done with a runner at third. If they throw to second to get the out, the runner from third advances home. Some teams will defend this by throwing down to first base. If the runner interferes with this throw while out of the running lane we have interference.

Yep. NFHS Casebook 8.2.5 Situation B.

[rbmartin]

Originally Posted by rwest

In FP Softball the ball is live when the batter becomes a batter-runner during a base on balls situation. Some teams will have their runners round 1st and go to second. This is normally done with a runner at third. If they throw to second to get the out, the runner from third advances home. Some teams will defend this by throwing down to first base. If the runner interferes with this throw while out of the running lane we have interference.

So in the above mentioned scenario, is the B/R out or is R3 out? I assume it is delayed/immediate dead ball depending on if the throw actually contacted the runner or not?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

So in the above mentioned scenario, is the B/R out or is R3 out? I assume it is delayed/immediate dead ball depending on if the throw actually contacted the runner or not?

In softball, interference is always an immediate dead ball, and the player who committed the interference is out (unless already out or not an active runner), and other runners return to the last base at the time of the interference.

The Fed ruling is silly, since that defensive "play" is mainly attractive for teams with poor defensive skills. Skilled teams merely return the ball to the pitcher, leaving all defensive options still open for runners off their bases. But, there are a lot of teams that can't do a couple of quick throws without a near 100% chance of an error. Hence, this is viewed as a real "play". JMO, of course.