THs at it again

[IRISHMAFIA]

West Michigan-ND

"there's a nice pitch just out of the strike zone" "that's one of those pitches where the umpire, for both teams has been squeezing the strike zone".. HUH!?!?

It's out of the zone, but it's the umpire's fault it isn't a strike?

WTF do they get these idiots? (rhetorical)

[IN ASA BLUE]

Wish I had a dollar for every time I heard a TH say, "Close play, but tie goes to the runner." I hear this in both Softball and Baseball. Really ??? I can't seem to find this rule anywhere in the rulebooks...

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by in asa blue

wish i had a dollar for every time i heard a th say, "close play, but tie goes to the runner." i hear this in both softball and baseball. Really ??? I can't seem to find this rule anywhere in the rulebooks...

asa 8.2.b

[IN ASA BLUE]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

asa 8.2.b

asa 8.2.b say's nothing about a tie...?????

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by IN ASA BLUE

asa 8.2.b say's nothing about a tie...?????

Oh boy.

The rule states that the BR must be put out PRIOR to reaching the base which means that if the ball and BR reach there destination at the same time (a tie), the BR is safe, by rule.

[IN ASA BLUE]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Oh boy.

The rule states that the BR must be put out PRIOR to reaching the base which means that if the ball and BR reach there destination at the same time (a tie), the BR is safe, by rule.

The rule never address' a TIE...by rule.

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Oh boy.

The rule states that the BR must be put out PRIOR to reaching the base which means that if the ball and BR reach there destination at the same time (a tie), the BR is safe, by rule.

I admit, I have given coaches 2 answers on this play
"Coach, the runner did not beat the ball to the bag."
"Coach, the ball did not beat the runner to the bag."
I'm going with my first reaction on this kind of play.

[IRISHMAFIA]

UM-UK

"Blocking the base would be obstruction, but that is where the ball took them (fielder)."

No, moron, it isn't OBS because the ball got there first, so the "about to receive" was evident. So far, that caveat has helped UM twice today.

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

UM-UK

"Blocking the base would be obstruction, but that is where the ball took them (fielder)."

No, moron, it isn't OBS because the ball got there first, so the "about to receive" was evident. So far, that caveat has helped UM twice today.

I caught that one.
(edited to add)
Did you catch , "I believe it was a fair ball, then she was tagged"??? on that KY batter?
It was actually contact with a batter ball outside the batter's box.
(finally adding)......
Wow what an ending....

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

I caught that one.
(edited to add)
Did you catch , "I believe it was a fair ball, then she was tagged"??? on that KY batter?
It was actually contact with a batter ball outside the batter's box.

I did, but I did not see the ball touch the batter a second time. And come to think of it, if she were hit with the BB, wouldn't she still have been in the box for a dead ball?

Or is it possible he called her out for being outside the box?

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I did, but I did not see the ball touch the batter a second time. And come to think of it, if she were hit with the BB, wouldn't she still have been in the box for a dead ball?

Or is it possible he called her out for being outside the box?

Maybe I'm as bad as the TH!!
I thought I saw it hit her and was questioning if she was in the box or not.
(now I'm going from memory) - After making the DEAD BALL call, the Umpire did point to the ground towards the batters box which I would normally take to be indicating that she was hit while in the box (and a foul) - but since she was out, I figured I read that wrong.

Now that you mention it, maybe he WAS indicating she was out of the box on contact -
I'll have to get a better TV......
and not drink so much when watching...

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

Maybe I'm as bad as the TH!!
I thought I saw it hit her and was questioning if she was in the box or not.
(now I'm going from memory) - After making the DEAD BALL call, the Umpire did point to the ground towards the batters box which I would normally take to be indicating that she was hit while in the box (and a foul) - but since she was out, I figured I read that wrong.

Now that you mention it, maybe he WAS indicating she was out of the box on contact -
I'll have to get a better TV......
and not drink so much when watching...

Whoa! Let's not go overboard, now.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I did, but I did not see the ball touch the batter a second time. And come to think of it, if she were hit with the BB, wouldn't she still have been in the box for a dead ball?

Or is it possible he called her out for being outside the box?

It appeared to me that she was called out for being hit by a fair ball while out of the batter's box. It did appear to hit her, at least in real time. I didn't think about her possible being called for being out of the box when the bat made contact with the ball. That is a definite possibility. Maybe even more likely.

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by rwest

It appeared to me that she was called out for being hit by a fair ball while out of the batter's box. It did appear to hit her, at least in real time. I didn't think about her possible being called for being out of the box when the bat made contact with the ball. That is a definite possibility. Maybe even more likely.

Well, you and I pictured it the same on first impression.

Wonder if there is a way to check by looking at the box score.
I know less about scorekeeping than I do about umpiring ...
Is there a differwence in the way those outs are indicated or would they both be simply INT/F2?

PS: PU was a good example of comming up big and being demonstartive aboiut the call.
As I recall, there was little or no question about the call.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Fla-Ore game today. Demonstration by JMendo was supposed to be the "drag bunt".

Apparently, no one in softball knows that on a drag bunt, the idea is to "drag" the ball, not drop it dead in front of the plate. Then, of course, the THs had to note what a great "drag" bunt a UF player laid down about 2' in front of the plate.

I almost forgot, when you drag bunt, you stay square to the plate, never open up toward 1B.

I'm absolute stunned that I missed the complete rewriting of the Official Dictionary and Encyclopedia of Sports Terms.