Dead Ball Craziness

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Originally posted by greymule
Yes, thanks, Mike. Now we know which "first" "next" base they're talking about.

However, note that in this area ASA is still very different from Fed and not quite the same as OBR, which uses the moment the ball went out of play, not the time of the award, to determine runners' obligations.

It also gives us umps a little advantage in that we can see what's going on and know where everybody is when we make the award. In OBR, it's not always easy to gauge where everybody was at the moment the ball became dead.

This explanation still doesn't explain the case book play that says a BR who hits a ball over the fence (ball dead, award made), misses 1B, and then rounds 2B can legally return to touch 1B.

Personally, my primary concern is ASA. Really don't care what Fed does with their rules. I believe that until recently, there has been too much of a baseball influence in NFHS rules. There were many, and may still be some areas, where the softball teams was litterly run by the baseball coaches and many hard-nosed, plow 'em over at the plate, win at all cost baseball coaches had a hard time grasping the women's game rules. May not have been the same everywhere, but I've seen it before. You still have baseball coaches whose only understanding of girls' FP is to forbid their players from being embarrassed by one of the female pitchers by trying to bat against them.

BTW, why wouldn't a player who hit a HR not be allowed to return to retouch 1B? Now, if you are basing this on the belief that bases earned by hitting a HR are "awards", you are going to have to find something in the book that contradicts 8.5.H (the word used is "entitled", not awarded) or POE #25 in which distinct differences are made between a HR and four-base award.